They also say “Death to the Living” since dawn of time, and still work with the living members of the Horde.
You see, it will sound twisted, but that’s just how Forsaken reproduce, they kill humans and raise them into forsaken ranks. It’s more akin to conversion.
Words are words and cleansing terriories of the enemy, civilian or not is not genocide.
This is such an idiotic stance to define a people as morally faulty.
Killing monsters that literally rip the skins off of their human prey after eating them to make their buildings is wrong. Who would have thought lmao
If you want to call it that. They neutralised a threat to their very existence on the only home they had.
This is absolutely not an equivalence to the Native Americans. The Native Americans did not invade Britain. Seriously now.
What land have they stolen exactly? Ashenvale was always Night Elven, Azshara was always Night Elven, Darkshore, Hyjal. And the Dark Troll tribes that lived there were unharmed by the Kaldorei, they lived together for the next ten thousand years, to the point they fought against the Legion side by side during the Third War.
The Dark Trolls were wiped out by the Legion and the Twilight’s Hammer, the Night Elves had nothing to do with it.
The Shatterspear were left in peace until they tried to conquer Darkshore along with the Horde and they were rightfully neutralised.
But the current Night Elves, who rejected and despise Azshara, or the Humans a few hundred generations after Thoradin are not guilty of whatever genocides you’re trying to paint on them!
If the Night Elves were unambiguous frenzied murderers that constantly try to get rid of anyone even a thousand miles away from their borders.
Then yes, they would be lucky indeed to still be spared.
Yes it is.
By your own words:
It has the intent.
So which is it?
I mean, i certainly see where you’re coming from. Ethnic cleansing your territories is a genocide technicaly.
But i argue that they would have done the same for any living Alliance race and not just humans.
“Killing rest of humanity” is indeed intent for a genocide but nothing beyoud cleansing Loardaeron adjecent territories of unafiliated humans was done.
Ahh, the Zarao school of thought. When you cross the sea to genocide the quillboar and centaur 10 years ago but it doesn’t count because some humans and elves killed trells thousands of years ago, a blame which horde obviously doesn’t share, because even though forsaken are 10000% the true people of Lordaeron and you have not one but two races descended from the nobility of the night elf empire, you can just smack your tusks and say you dindu nuffin. 
Gnolls and Kobolds are often shown with about as much “sophistication” as troll tribes.
Given humans started of as Vrykul, who didn’t shy away from conducting quite the barbaric practices, i’d say that as long as the target is considered a person, any action carried out against them weights roughly the same.
Rather hypocritical to claim being wronged when you so freely dispense punishment on those you consider inferior. Talk about “civilised” men pacifying the “savages”.
By the way, even Jarod considered the likes of Furbolgs and Gnolls as allies in the fight against the Legion.
Same could be said for any Forsaken action. For any act of aggression in fact.
It is expanded on in page 96 of the first Chronicles book, where its described how Azshara strongarmed the Zandalari.
Soutshore, Amberill and Gilneas were unaffiliated? Well, that’s a new one.
You know what, I hold quite a few liberal stances on a lot of things, but I never thought I would see the day that someone would reach the point we have to call attacks on a group of violent animalistic monsters who use people as food and literal building material wrong and discriminating.
I’m speechless, you’re even relating these fiendish fictional creatures to the Native Americans, I have no words.
I asked you what lands the Night Elves currently hold that they’ve stolen and you reply “Azshara strongarmed the Zandalari”.
Oh, Zarao, my sweet summer child.
Point.
We need to bring Azshara and her highborne cronies to justice!
So, a character who’s closest advisors and courtiers are either directly or through their descendants a part of the horde and a character who herself made deals with then acting warchief of the horde is now alliance resposibility, okay. 
Ah yes, Gilneas, the famous Alliance state.
Ambermill and Southshore were pretty much left for dead by Alliance. Not trying to downplay that razing them to the ground is a brutal measure, but Horde was at war in Cata and it so happened Forsaken were the main force in EK.
Yes it is. Like it or not.
We had Gilneas Liberation Front, 7th Legion and Stormpike Brigade helping them. The fact that Blizzard was too busy making new shiny horde content in cata to allow Alliance players to do something is not my problem.
(I’m going to ignore the strawman for a bit and see how it goes…)
So, now we are to take our real life views to elucidate who has the rights to take whatever they want in this fantasy setting?
Out of curiosity, are all races that clash with our real life values to be considered second-ranking or unworthy of the same “rights” as those that do? Regardless of the fact that this is fiction?
Because last time i checked, plenty of those “savage” races that were wronged throughout the years, would become playable and active members of the heroic protagonist cast.
And if they expressively did not, certainly those with similar cultures did.
Yes. Here, these are chronicle maps that show the before and the after:
Before Azshara:
https://wow.gamepedia.com/World_of_Warcraft:_Chronicle_Volume_1#/media/File:Kalimdor_Chronicle.jpg
After Azshara:
https://wow.gamepedia.com/World_of_Warcraft:_Chronicle_Volume_1#/media/File:Night_Elf_Empire.jpg
Open them in two different tags and switch back and forth to see the expansion effect.
Stop bothering us with horde on horde violence pls.
You mean these guys?
(…)kingdom’s ruler, Genn Greymane, was not a strong supporter of the Alliance.
Shortly after the Horde was defeated, Greymane pulled his nation’s support from the Alliance(…)
Some time after the Second War, Greymane constructed the Greymane Wall— Attempting to forever remove his nation from what he considered “other people’s troubles”, he barricaded the majority of Gilneas behind the Wall. No one, not even other humans were allowed to enter Gilneas.
Peak Alliance, indeed.
We had Gilneas Liberation Front, 7th Legion and Stormpike Brigade
All were there a bit too late to stop Forsaken steamroll almost to Khaz Modan.
And why the hell are you blaming HORDE for not getting content?
You’re trolling at this point.
Did you even read the question? I asked you what lands the current Night Elves are stealing from others, or heck, to address your original point, what people are they currently genociding and you tell me “The Kaldorei Empire”.
What? The same empire they renounced and despise? Ten thousand years ago?
That makes them guilty, in modern times, of genocide? Under what insane definition?
Edit:
Absolutely not a strawman, you tried to imply the Alliance and the Humans are morally culpable for killing Gnolls, the misunderstood foreigners that are wrongfully called savages.
Which is, again, idiotic. We’re talking about monsters, there’s no British Empire equivalence.
You are…talking about…literal monsters, Gnolls, mobs in a game…and comparing them to the mistreatment suffered by the Native Americans in a mind numbing attempt to paint the Alliance as colonial Britain.
Zarao you’re reaching unhinged levels of stupid.
Alliance of Lordaeron =/= The Grand Alliance. At least horde players claim it all the time. Saying no to Quel’thalas and Lordaeron, two of the main horde bases of power, is nothing to be ashamed of.
Because Blizzard said it themselves when asked why worgen didn’t get their own Azshara like goblins? “We run out of time”, hence horde content was priority.
I’m not blaming you, I’m blaming people like Afrasiabi or Kosak, don’t worry.
Yes. You asked what lands did the NE take from trolls, and i just showed a map that highlights the land taken.
From the current cast of active troll tribes that populate the setting, i see territories taken from the Farraki, the Drakkari, the Amani, the Dark Trolls, the Zandalari and the Gurubashi.
Most of said territories were blown or destroyed after the Sundering by the hand of the rulers that had taken them, but given the current map for both continents, NEs still hold former Gurubashi territory (and that of their offshoots like the Shatterspear), as well as a good chunk of Dark Troll territory (that were also attacked by NEs as recently as Wc3 goes), and Farraki territory.
I don’t think i ever addressed any CURRENT act of genocide on either humans or NEs part.
But i did argue that its rather hypocritical for either to call on unjust treatment when others exercise the sort of move they were rather inclined to commit themselves back when they needed it.
Because you see, the genocide of enemy nations isn’t some revolutionary invention Horde races just discovered.
Alliance races were simply way ahead of the curve. Be that NEs under Azshara, humans under Thoradin, or Dwarves from Ironforge.
Most of said races are currently simply enjoying the bounty.
I don’t know what you are talking about.
You argued that Gnolls, Furbolgs or Kobolds were mere “beasts” that didn’t deserve to be compared to actual people in the setting, and i argued that their level of primitiveness is comparable to that of most trolls, and the fact that this is a fantasy setting where these kind of races are seen as people with as many “rights” as any other playable race.
I also pointed out the willingness humans and NEs (and practically every other race) have to exterminate them in their own lands if the need arises. And how we seldom (if ever) are to see these actions as nothing else other than necessity. Nor are we expected to pity/sympathise with them.
Do people serious use wars and stolen land from 10000 years ago as an argument?
In a setting were some races live tens of thousand of years i don’t think thats really weird.
And how many responsible for these conquests are still alive? And what is up with blaming entire races for the deeds of their rulers?