Forum Reporting: A flawed system?

Can’t imagine the workload for the CMs and maybe it is easier to just silence someone and move on. I know in the past I havn’t been a saint either, but I have received several out of context silences so I do think this is a conversation worth having.

Context should matter and flagging shouldn’t be used as a downvote which currently people seem to be using it for.

Generally speaking I think they’re doing a good job but as already mentioned above it does leave me a bit puzzled why some threads far outstay their welcome while others get shut down within 5 minutes.

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Have you ever appealed the silences you didn’t agree with?

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I agree with most of what has been said above. Some topics that are clearly bait (either by chance or by negligence) are left alone, while others that just barely overstep a boundary get immediately shut down. I do wonder how exactly decisions are made internally, but that’s for them to decide, not is.

I mean, right now there is a topic that is… how should I say… it’s title is very deathly. It’s still up, despite being an obvious bait and with inflammatory nature.
On the other hand, another topic that called for a change in management within the development team at Blizzard not only got hidden, but completely removed just hours ago. Mind you, a number of forumers defended OP by mentioning he didn’t break any rules. I digress…

What I stand by, though, is the increase of reports needed for hiding a post/topic. 5 is too easily exploitable. Just get you m+ friends to log their forum accounts and flag a topic/post you don’t like and BOOM - instant success. I’m sure it’s been exploited like that before. That’s why I think that limit should be increased to 10.
Why?
Because if a topic is clearly racist/sexist/inflammatory/troll/bait/etc. it will garner attention and flags automatically. Even I, who rarely even report, will take action (as I did today with that thread I mentioned earlier) and flag it.

But yeah. Understaffed team means less control which is never good. One can only hope that the recent events shock the management into finally taking positive actions.

Quite frankly a lot of people on the forums (a couple of them even posted here) deserve to get suspended for at least a few days to realize how they behave with others, just because you disagree about a topic with someone doesn’t mean you get to be passive aggressive or troll, the opposite is also true, you don’t get to call people trolls and/or get offended then false flag simply because someone disagrees with you and presents reasonable arguments.

Once but closed it after a while, the wait time was longer than the silence. For the others I was too cross to bother. In hindsight, should’ve just stuck it out to help both parties.

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I seen some of your comments so should a suspension come your way also when you spoke harshly to others about removing mythic raid gear ?
Your actions are and have been just as bad in some cases ,so have mine been and i have been actioned 20 times which i am not proud of but how do you know others have not been banned ?
You have no inside knowledge or you must be tracking said posters A LOT which is very worrying .

This.

Don’t think I’ve ever been flagged / had a post hidden. But I try to follow the prime directive of gaming - Don’t be a dick.

I did get banned for a few days once because I necroed a thread complaining about necroing. Totally worth it :smiley:

Saying I never understood the problem with necroing on this forum. There were plenty of threads discussing a topic that was still relevant (I know that in a game where the systems go out of date every two years old posts can be post their best before date but banning all older posts is a sledgehammer to crack a nut).

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It’s still worth appealling as the punishments clock up. So even if it’s after the fact that mark will be removed from your ‘record’ so to speak.

I wasn’t passive aggresive or trolling with anyone so no, no suspension coming my way sorry.

??? I genuinely don’t know what you’re talking about, literally none of my actions on the forums have been bad, sure i’ve disagreed with some, including you, the difference is other people usually don’t take it personally or act like you’re doing right now and make up stuff fortunately so no again, no suspension.

If you had been actionned against 20 times you’d be permabanned from the forums.

Never said I did, I said some people deserved a punishment, I didn’t even name names and no I’m not conciously tracking people on the forums, it’s not like there’s a lot of regulars posting in every topic and I just read a bunch of topics every day because some of them are still worth discussing even if WoW is on fire right now.

Anyways I had a feeling you were answering to me eventho your post was hidden, I have nothing personal against you but you always resort to the victim card when things don’t go your way, it’s fine if you wanna do that, I’m just not interested in having conversations about the game with people like that.

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Nah, we’ve seen quite alot of repeat offenders that just keeps coming back. I think you have to do something really really bad to get permabanned.

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Maybe it’s different on the WoW forums but on the Overwatch forums you get 3 strikes you’re permabanned.
I experienced it first hand, my second suspension was totally justified as I was genuinely trolling somebody, the first and last were not, it was a bunch of angry Mercy mains false flagging everybody disagreeing with them, I appealed the first time it happened out of the two, the GM said the suspension wasn’t justified but since it was a one day suspension they did nothing about it, the second one I got permabanned because it was effectively my 3rd strike, I opened a ticket and even mentionned that my first suspension was because of false flagging, the GM didn’t care and told me you’ve have 3 strikes it’s over.

It’s basically the same as the ingame automated system, after a number of repeated offense you get permabanned so I’m genuinely curious as to how the WoW forums are different, maybe we’re not talking about the same kind of action, having your post hidden or deleted without an actual suspension isn’t being actionned against imo.

In the end people always came back to the OW forums because of alts, is it similar on the WoW forums, do they only ban one character or the entire account?

I know daestra and i know she has had timeouts from the forum of varying lengths (from 24 hr to up to 2 months) during the 2 years i’ve known her. Probably about 8-10 of those in the time i have known her, so i have no issue believing she has had 20 bans by now. She has used the forums for a long time (not always as daestra). Why would she even lie about it? :woman_shrugging:t3:

Edit: your entire account gets banned.

it is completely broken and widely abused.

i dont see why there should be a report function for hiding any topic or comment. If the moderators feel it breaks the code then they ban the poster and remove the post, there should be no report function for players on any forum.

The only people that should be able to ban/hide a comment/player is the moderators … if such a thing exists.

It’s inevitable that some will use it for that reason since there is no other way of showing your displeasure with a post outside of trying to argue against its contents.

On a different note, as already pointed out in this thread, then the coding behind the ignore function needs an overhaul. Ignoring another poster is cumbersome in its process (the previous forum version allowed you to do it directly as a function undernearth the posters portrait) and only ignores a character instead of a whole account.

That would require alot of moderators having to read through every single post on the forum. Thats never gonna happen.

It is indeed. I made a topic suggesting Blizzard to merge servers. Got flagged for spam. Mods deleted. Imagine!

Maybe there’s a cooldown that makes your strikes reset after a certain time, my suspensions all happened in a few months on the OW forums.

Honestly regardless of the person after 8-10 suspensions the person should definitely be permabanned from the forums, how many chances do you give somebody before they misbehave again?

If someone was to post on an alt during a suspension it’s literally against the CoC (Not saying Daestra was, idk that)

Circumventing a Suspension / Ban

This category includes:

  • Posting on another account
  • Having someone post on your behalf

If a player is found to have participated in such actions, they will:

  • Be permanently banned from posting on the forums

Not saying they are, like I said maybe it’s different from the OW forums, I just found it very odd at first so I was skeptical for sure and I jumped the gun, that was my bad.

I didnt say she posts on other accounts during ban :woman_facepalming:t3: I said she has been a forumer for a long time, before she started posting as Daestra.

…and a bit pointless since anyone can see the censored message with just one extra click.

I had already edited before I had a feeling you’d go for it right away, I’m not trying to attack Daestra, I was just stating stuff.