Fair enough I understand
Had this tab open just about to go to bed and see Aly still beating the 
out of his keyboard
Just donât think theyâre worth any energy at all
Thinks their English is way better than it is
Reading their posts gives me a brain aneurysm
he has still not provided proof of these r1s and mglads gatekeeping him on 1.8 for past +13 years
he were given promise from multiple people to go through the players he provides from his game and he refuses but continues claiming to be beating multiple r1s while against all odds pushes to 1.8 where he evidently is gatekept for past +13 years, so factually he is not 2.1 he is still rival but are not willing show proof of playing against these r1s he claims to see for most of his games
This is the funniest thing youâve ever said. I needed that laugh
I legit think shuffle did something to him. He used to be fine but hard to read which is whatever - but ever since he got 2.4 in shuffle playing destro lock at the end of s1 his ego has just went to jupiter and he feels the need to not just have an opinion on everything, but also correct everyone and also call them all liars and bad at the same time.
the consequences of shuffle on the average wow pvperâs mind have been dire indeed. i mean this is the same guy who would call you bad in one paragraph, then tell you he intentionally leaves shuffle games as healer just to troll people. most toxic person iâve met on the forums by far.
Brotherman Iâm so bored Iâm on the forums, didnât read the whole fiasco, but I canât get over how 2.1k delush capped players just call for nerfs and buffs all over the place.
Demo on high end isnât problematic, on low it is
Itâs damage profile got shifted to way more sustain than anything else
But teams with more than 3 braincells combined spam root pops which actually does shutdown significant amount of the damage.
With that said, it needs some adressing to be less frustrating to play vs, maybe more damage shifts from pet to the warlock itself, the direction is good that theyâve taken, but it can shutdown a lot of classes by itself which makes it seem âbrokenâ esp in 2v2 where counterplay is even less.
Before anyone just starts yapping that Iâm a wl main or w/e, yes I do play wl and I also play all 3 specs to around 2.8-3k mmr consistantly in the actual bracket of the game.
(Iâm not mentioning meme rated skirmish shuffle piss for a reason, itâs not a bracket on which the game should be balanced around)
notice how dplover doesnât use the word gatekeep but alythena has inserted that word in himself. very curious. is it perhaps because his entire reason for obsessing over me hinges upon the lie that i think im being gatekept by glads and r1s?
who can say what goes on inside his mind 
Because the average player is not 2.1k, and everyone loves to give their opinion. Everyone can have L opinions at 1.1k or 3.3k, just because youâre low rated, doesnât mean your opinion or suggestion isnât valid, and just because youâre 3.3k doesnât make your opinion or suggestion valid.
indeed - i have seen people that were at 1700 for entire season after 1,000+ rounds. they post on the forums a lot, i respect that they want to give their opinion. but they should keep their ego at the door when doing so, or it just looks foolish when they try to flame everyone for rating when they donât measure up themselvesâŠ
no one is gatekept for 1.8 for +13 years row by r1s or mgladiators or making these claims of facing these r1s on rival is false
indeed i agree. that sounds like nonsense. whoever made that up is clearly not playing with a full set of cards, but i think you should stop derailing the thread by trying to bring up a topic you arenât clued in on.
alas asking a troll to stick to topic is like pulling teeth
The first few weeks of a season are everyone mashed with everyone. For example, when I go get my 1.8k elite set in the first 2-3 weeks of the season, everyone at 1.8-2.1k mmr are, in-fact gladiators/rank 1âs/streamers.
Inflation exists for a reason, and in the first few weeks, there is barely any. Idk why this is so hard to grasp.
Donât mention my name when Iâm not here, or at least reply to me so I receive a notification.
You said 40% of your games are against r1s, glads and streamers at 1800 mmr, yet refuse to provide any sort of evidence that substantiates your claim. Burden of proof is on you, otherwise thereâs absolutely no substance when making such a claim to other people. The only reason you think Iâm âobsessedâ with you is because instead of admitting hyperbole, you decided to spend hours and hours and hours dragging out the topic instead of doing 1 simple thing.
yeah he quoted you so it doesnt matter.
âprobablyâ
admitting hyperbole requires knowing the actual number. i donât. i think it is probably around 40%. i would say it is actually higher though this season. not sure why but it feels particularly sweaty. its either duelist DHs or glads/rank1s - in 2s and shuffle.
you dragged out a convo for hours because you wanted me to factually prove something using peer reviewed studies that was a âprobably 40%â comment.
i have already told you im not going to do that - and besides, the point in this thread was the word âgatekeptâ - i dont think you believe i was saying i was âgatekeptâ either. you are smart enough to know i was merely complaining that i have to play against a bunch of glads/rank1s/streamers, and your issue was with the âprobably 40%â statement.
continues play on rival for +13 years, yet makes claims of beating r1 players against all odds, something doesnt add up, but it is obvious why he keeps making these lies, to feel better of himself like self promotion, just conveniently not willing to provide proof of it when asked
I agree, to an extend.
The average player isnât 2.1 exp, yeah and people love to throw around their opinions and takes, yep.
But, while I do agree that on a moral point low rated players ideas and âvoicesâ should be validated, I donât agree they can have generally good non biased takes.
A higher rated player has been through all stages of play, low, mid and high and have seen it all.
That ofc doesnât stop them from being unbiased or spewining nonsense (Hence I just aknowledged the fact that demo is in need of changes, but havenât suggested what, since I do play the spec/class.)
But generally their feedback would be better.
With that said, low players EXPERIENCES do matter, a lot.
Itâs a valid way to see how frustrating/rewarding is to play vs/as something.
Overall, no one is dev, so they should shut up tl;dr
Donât take me too seriously, either imo it was just funny that the middle of the pack ppl were just blasting specs out of the blue and calling others âbadâ.
Because we play in the first 3 weeks of the season to get 1.8k for the cute sets on alts we want it on, and stop playing.
The first 2-3 weeks of the season 1.8k is filled with gladiators, rank 1âs, and streamers.
i think people with 13 years of record as rival have least valid takes, especially when they are making claims of facing half their games r1s and beating them or later being gatekept by them or whatever these ppl have been spewing around now top of all the other garbage they spew around of random matters
Which isnât what you said. This is what you said:
Can you tell me where in this post youâre saying or implying âprobablyâ?
No it wasnât, as you can see above. You made an objective statement, you could just admit that you made a little bit of a boo boo and end this entire cringey discussion, though.
Makes your whole statement null and void then. You made a statement before the season went live about the calibre of players and the frequency you played against them and then multiple people challenged you on it saying youâre exaggerating.
This is just a straight up mentality issue, man. Blizzard resets the MMR, you queue on the first day, ofc youâre going to face higher expâd players. I donât complain that Iâm facing r1s and AWC teams at 2200, I use it as a learning experience.
Which just proves the entire point of everything people are arguing with.
You sign up on the first few days, and get 1.8, YOU.WILL.FACE.MULTI.RANK.1.PLAYERS.GLADIATORS.AND STREAMERS.
Thus, 1.8k in the first few weeks is a lot harder than anyone getting 1.8k in the last few weeks of the season.
Not what he said. He said 40% of his games at 1.8 are against those people, then provided no evidence of it. A claim as valid as me saying Iâve beaten Echo 10 times in a row.
Congratulations, you have discovered âinflationâ.