hello.
most of time in game i do have 120-160 fps. yesterday 1st time i was in 25 men and i found it almost unplayable. my fps fall down to 30-40 especialy in small places with all ppl casting etc.
my PC is ryzen 5900hx+rx6800+16GB ram so this kind of things shouldnt happend in fact…
whats funny - usage of my CPU was like 20% and my GPU max 70% - additionaly GPU should work with clock 2100+ and work especialy in FPS low moments with speed like 500-600MHz
i do not have this kind of issues in other games and i do check it with all addons off/on etc
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Do you have combat logging switched on ? It might be worth seeing if that’s the problem.
You can switch it on/off by using the /combatlog command.
You also don’t mention your storage device - I assume it’s an SSD and it’s not full, but worth confirming that. If you’re still using a conventional HDD that is probably something worth looking at.
combatlog is off
what i see is:
- in locations like dalaran:
- low gpu usage - 60-70%
- low gpu clock - 600-1000MHz
- low power consumption gpu - 55-60W
what for sure affect FPS drasticly
- when i fly or even get to Dalaran Landing (open world with maxed settings max distance of rendering etc):
- gpu usage - 96-99%
- gpu clock - 2500MHz
- power consumption gpu - 140-150W
its not about addons/settings/my drivers/my laptop etc - its stricly about something with WOW.
i would love 2 have 96-99% gpu usage in raid - it would allow me 2 play with 120-160fps… but if usage is all time 60-70% its a game issue
ps. its nvme 50% full
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What is your screen resolution ?
I understand what you’re saying, but nobody here can do anything other than make suggestions. If you think it’s a bug in WOW, this is not the place to report it. You can report bugs in-game: ESC > Support > Submit Feedback or Bug Report
I don’t have any wildly helpful suggestions I’m afraid. Certainly your GPU should be able to drive that resolution without any real issues.
All I can think of to do is to turn the various graphics settings down individually and see which - if any - helps with this problem. I know you’d like to play with everything cranked up to 11, but sometimes you just have to be pragmatic until the actual solution comes along.
OH no no, i lowered all details 2 minimum - everything - difference is
cpu usage drops from ca20% to 9-13%
gpu usage drops from 60% to 25-40%
gpu power consumption drops from 60W to 35W
gpu clock are stable most times 
- at 500MHz!!! hehehe my integrated Radeon clock is faster hahaha
so - it looks like game dont need more - i achive high frame rate so no need 2 work faster. thats truth in open world. but in cities and in raids fps falls to 40 sometimes… and GPU or CPU doesnt rly work faster 2 compensate lower FPS with higher clocks/power etc - its like it doeasnt rly see this as an issue (and base clock should be 2116 with power boost 2500MHz)
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I can confirm that I have the same issue, got really bad fps drops in 25man raids since wotlk prepatch. My setup is Ryzen 9 3900 3.8, 32GB 3.2 and 3080.
Tried all setting regarded to graphics etc ingame, removing all addons and such but nothing made any difference to the point where I just succumbed to raiding 25man with a 2006 lvl handicap.
I have seen a similar thread on the US forums where I was hoping to get some kind of answer to what is going on, I’ll check tomorrow after the raid to see if any of the new things I’m gonna try works, otherwise I’ll just wait in hope of someone knowing what’s up.
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Same here, since prepatch my RTX 3080 can’t handle raids at 120 FPS @ 3440x1440 anymore. Now I have 55-65 FPS with drops to 40-45. It started in TBC raids and now goes on in WotLK.
Was blaming DKs and all the AOE animations that came with prepatch but changing graphics settings to minimum gives like +10 FPS max.
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They might have added some additional complexity to combat checks - wherever some new features or anti-cheat. If so you should see a constant 100% load on one of the CPU cores. If it’s like that then changing GPU settings won’t help much if at all.
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Its rly frustrating… i have 9-13% usage of CPU and 30% GPU and 40fps and giant issue with fps… U all have similiar issue but noone even like 2 answer 
You would have to look at each core load, not all-core CPU load.
Please don’t think you speak for me. No, not everyone has similar issues, I don’t have any issues at all.
You need to keep one thing in mind when reading a forum. People who have issues, complain. People who don’t have issues, tend not to make posts saying “Hey, just to let you know, I don’t have issues.”
The nett result is forums are full of complaints, so it seems like a serious problem, when it might not actually be that widespread.
Trovlak speaks a lot of truth here. Another detail that would be worth mentioning is that applications/games don’t actually get to decide which clockspeed the hardware runs on - that is controlled by the drivers for said hardware, the operating system, and in some cases tertiary programs that manage performance/temperatures/fanspeed.
With that in mind: all that was described here sounds a lot like some power/performance-management setting is at times vastly underestimating the needs of the game, and in turn throttles hardware clockspeeds. I’d recommend to have a look at any such software that may be installed (maybe even fully remove them for a test) and also the power profile settings in Windows - if they’re not set to high/ultra levels, that may have very similar results.
i changed all power profiles 2 allow WoW be high performance game (in Wind+in Asus i set all manualy to allow use all power possibly). I do not have any temperature issue.
Most important i do check it in many other games much newer and much more GPU/CPU bounded - i do not have any issue with it.
I tried with stress tests like MSI Kombaster - absolutely no issues and lack of performance - it is happend ONLY IN WoW.
in forums U can find mass of ppl with 12900k+3080 who have similiar issues - seems U want 2 tell us - we all have same problems with power and temps… aint this little strange?
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In retail WoW i dropped to 15 FPS at sylvanas fated mythic when our wl aoed the motes after the pull, yesterday.
Others with slower PCs had literally the game freeze for a second or two.
That’s just how the engine “works”… although it should not be an issue in WOTLK since there is less stuff going on at the same time in those raids back then.
Tldr; WoW is heavily CPU limited in raids, especially with addons… the combatlog and the addons all run on the same main CPU-thread… your 16 cores mean nothing to the game engine (only clockspeeds, CPU-cache and memory speed).
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Same issue here.
I run with:
AMD Ryzen 7 5800 8-core, 16 CPUs
ASUS GeForce RTX 3070 DUAL SI
Kingston FURY Beast RGB DDR4 3200MHz 32GB
Kingston NV1 NVMe M.2 SSD 1TB
WD Blue SN570 NVMe SSD 500GB
ASUS ROG Strix B550-E GAMING Motherboard
Cooler Master MWE Gold 850W PSU
Can run in the open world with 600+ fps at high settings, no problem. But whenever in 25m raids or in Dalaran(wotlk) my fps just drops down to 60-90.
600+ fps and 60-90 fps… That’s a HUGE fps drop.
Yeah ever since prepatch i get mega lag spikes when sire spawns his sins or in other raids when load of affixes spawn on jailer i also experienced it in magisters terrace before the big electric boss when we aoed loads of the small wyrms there i had no issues with any of thise before prepatch. but currently on sire when he does his first sins spawning this week the lag spike or whatever you want to call it is so bad that game is so laggedd / frozen for me that i am not generally able to move or do anything at all until after the night things are dead. the lag has gotten worse since the prepatch cus my first week of sire kills it was mega lag just during the spawning of the sins but then relativly back to normal. And the issue with the affix aoe didn’t start till the second reset after the prepatch so it seems each restart keeps making this wow issue worse i have no issues with any other games this is solely an wow issue related in some way to changes made during prepatch, how updates / weekly resets has then managed to make the issue worse more lag spikey i have no idea but i hope a fix gets implemented because this is rediciolous. im running on 32gb ram and 3070 cant remember my cpu at moment but i have had mega % of all my stuff used by wow basically doing nothing just standing about doing nothing in wow. while others have had wow just keep taking more and more resources as if it was the browser chrome the longer it is turned on. like wow for them will just use 35% of everything (just an example number) then they play for like an hour and it has increased to like 65% and the longer wow is running the more resources it keeps grabbing so in the end wow suddenly is cllaiming 95% -100% of all the three thingys gpu cpu and ram. so this is clearly a wow issue related to / a really bad sideeffect of the wow prepatch and claims that this isnt the case are clearly false.
That’s normal in WoW.
In the first scenario your FPS are only limited by your GPU.
In the second (raid) your FPS are limited by your CPU.
I’m not saying 60-90 FPS is fine for a Ryzen 5800X, but that’s just how bad (and old) the WoW engine is.
The only thing you can try is to disable your addons and see how much difference it makes.
Then turn em on one after the other and see if there is a problem.
I am in the same boat, and have scoured both the support forums and reddit for a fix and nothing works. One thing I noticed is that everyone reporting this problem says it started after the wotlk prepatch.
Would you mind explaining how it is possible that all of those people report the same issue, right after the wotlk prepatch, but actually it does not have anything to do with the game?
@veadsarias
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