Hi, I’ve been experiencing fps drops in raid, regardless if it’s Black Temple or Aberrus. Maybe one of my components is not up to par for the current expansion and I wanted to ask if I should upgrade any of them.
They are:
GC: Nvidia Gforce 1660 TI
Processor: Amd Ryzen 7 3800x
Ram: 16 gb
is installed in a SSD and I have the vsync activated but deactivated it also happens.
That’s your bottleneck in raids.
I was raiding on a Ryzen 3900X for about 3 years until the DF prepatch.
FPS drops to 30 and below in 30man HC and 20 mythic with all the addons like weakauras etc was normal.
WoW is severly singlethreaded and the 3000 Ryzen series is really bad at that, weaker than older Intels.
AMD started to catch up with the 5000s and got parity with the 7000s and especially the X3D chips with more L3 cache.
Long story short, i upgraded to a 5800X3D which is the best you can get for the AM4 platform and it literally doubled my FPS in WoW.
Rarely dropping below 60 even if s… hits the fan 
Here’s a CPU benchmark to see what i’m talking about (scroll down);
These are FPS values while questing, so just look at the relative % FPS gains compared to your CPU.
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Not really. At the time 3000-series was released in 2019 3600X/3800X were very close, slightly ahead or slightly behind of the available Intel CPUs, and from what I remember comparable Intel CPUs were quite bit more expensive. 10th generation released next year slighty changed things but not in a major way. The first and second gen of Ryzens had far bigger difference in the single core perfromance but by 3000-series AMD had mostly caught up.
As to the OP: lower frame rates are unfortunately normal in the raids with 20+ people, especially if using many addons which can cause further bottlenecks. Depending on how exact FPS numbers there obviously might some other issues, too. I personally started DF with 3800X and slower GPU than yours (GTX 970) and I didn’t have major issues in the raids. FPS was lower but perfectly playable in 1920x1200 resolution.
If you want to upgrade your computer two obvious choices come up:
- New GPU
- Upgrade cpu to 5800X3D
If you play other graphically more demanding games besides WoW I would probably consider upgrading GPU first.
If you play only or mostly WoW or other CPU bound games then you probably should upgrade the CPU first. Currently you might find very good deals for new or used AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D CPUs. Your motherboard almost certainly supports it - it might need BIOS update, but check your motherboard specs and info to make sure.
Upgrading to 7800X3D or Intel CPU would require new motherboard and memory so it would be more expensive route.
New 5800X3D here cost from around 320 euros to 400 euros depending on the store. You probably can find used ones cheaper. GPUs tend to be more expensive.
edit: I personally upgraded to 5800X3D first and noticed the big gains like Aimjinx said. I later on upgraded GPU to RX6600 and it provided solid improvement, too. No idea how big improvements GPU would have given me (if any) had I Upgraded it first.
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Here in Germany the lowest price was at ~270€ early September and now it has gone up to ~290 again.
I paid 420€ a year ago and i do not regret it, best CPU i ever had by a mile (for gaming, not productive work )
Agreed, I paid 380 euros about year ago and I don’t regret it. Great upgrade for most games I play (WoW, Paradox Grand Strategy games etc). I am hoping to upgrade RX6600 to something bit faster, probably RX7800XT.
If on tight budget I’d definitely look for used 5800X3D for the best “bang for the buck” value for WoW and other types of games which are not graphically intensive.
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