From what i'm reading holy priest will be the worst healer in M+ again?:(

so what the holy priest needs???

  1. BUFF renew more heal or renew will also give +3% dmg reduction … OR BOTH
  2. give us instant [Dark Void] to be able to compete with druids BROKEN sunfire. and be competitive in mythic + dps
  3. [Holy Word: Sanctify] ALSO does instant damage to all enemies (competitive DPS)
  4. Echo of light must tick faster so it will sustain the group in order to give us some time to DPS
  5. MORE UTILITY ASAP (movement , Holy Word: Chastise stun-interrupt BASE, COMBAT RES )
    6)KEEP the damaging spells simple with a reduced cast time

BAAM … holy priest READY AND FUN and competitive …

TELL ME YOUR THOUGHTS

I think you can get a very good idea based on the current toolkit, as to how they will end up. The problem holy has through BFA it feels like has been that to buff them in m+ would make them OP in raids, because there wasn’t many dials to turn apart from throuhgput. They don’t have strong personal survival cd’s, or cc, or much utility at all, to play with which can let them be stronger in m+ without making them op in raids.

Mind soothe was a nice little addition, but it’s such a weak spell it doesn’t really solve the problem. Holy still gets far more punished for dealing damage than any other healer, and doesn’t really bring anything but pure throughput which is often at best on par with the other healers.

well that’s disappointing to hear :pensive:

Ok they’re still gonna be insane in raids?

Can’t have one class be broken everywhere like the abomination that hpala is

I think holy should more work with buffs. So buffing a friendly dps would also result in more damage groupwide. The priest does not need to do it himself :slight_smile: and yes, if 1 class deserves a combat res it is holy priest. Add maybe an instant ‘oh sh t’ -button on whatever longer cooldown and the class is way better without being broken.

Hpala is doing well in 1.5 seasons in bfa M+ and now it is an abomination? :stuck_out_tongue: It was the 4th healer in uldir and 3rd in M+ in s1. And still resto druid stays the best M+ healer for forever.

How does this change that it’s turbobroken in every content this patch? :thinking:
At least druid was awful in raids before this patch lol.

For ur info, yes I think a plate class pressing holy shock and light of dawn insta-topping people in m+ is an abomination ;D

Resto was the top healer thanks to its great utility, now hpala outperforms druids insane utility through just pure hps ;DD

Holy priest is most simple healer, huge lack of defensive cd and movement much beyond talent / i wish healers had dps rotations beyond just random dmg abilites.
With abilities connecting on each other.

Adding actual even SELF DEFF CD and movement ability beyond forced talent is not game breaking opposite it makes spec playable.

Maybe just accept that holy priest isn’t made for m+? xd?

you can easily go into 22s with it, it’s a cloth healer with no mobility and barely any utlity.

Still pumps insane hps though so 8)

What a nonsense you have wrote that explains why PvP is dominated by 4 classes/specs no one does it and it is each expansion going down and down adn down.

All class should have same abilites and then different abilites.

This is like saying INTERUPT should have only 3 classes from 12.

Stop with that joke when you know every class has own movement ability and self deff cd.

All healers should have combat ress too as basic.

Yeah bro let’s just give all classes all abilities so they can all be equal in all content 5head.

It really isn’t.

Yeah, and some still have more utility and mobility than others lmao, hpriest toolkit is just way better for raiding than for m+.

I agree.

Welcome to a cooldown dependend class :slight_smile: And still resto druid in M+ is on the same level :smiley: I understand a swiftmend is allowed to top a player, but 3 buttons during a cooldown is not allowed to top some players.

I just holy shocked myself. 82 415 heal. As a crit.

3 GCDs to top someone if you crit =/= pressing holy shock to heal/damage 5 targets for insane amounts ;D

Especially since u get extra crit chance on it as hpala too

Crit is not making the heal more. It is 82k for a critting holy shock.

Every 4 and a half seconds on several targets ;DD

cap

Several targets? Holy shock is 1 target. Cap? :thinking: My hschock is 7.2 cooldown. Not 4.5.

Glimmer still exists.

Wings exist still?

Glimmer is 14.5k. So we do not holy shock multiple targets. And yes like i said; welcome to a cooldown dependend class. At least 50% of the time we dont have it up.

I think i go fully agree with;

It indeed is, i dont understand how Luka does it :sweat_smile:

Like every time in WoW, (at least for not world first candidates) the game is balanced enough that no spec is truly obsolete and people can manage with it.

But still since people naturally seek the path of least resistance, they will still put too much attention on any way to optimize their group with the FOTM class, race and covenant.

I hope that Disc will work well in M+

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