All you really did was just admit how absolutely terrible at the game and absolutely braindead you are. Losing to lvl 53, yikes.
DK is op and needs a nerf. But you would not do good even if they were buffed and you would not beat that WW even if he was afk, because as you yourself just admitted, just suck. Lol
was waging frost dk or enhancement, tested on beta both and didn’t liked 500 obliterates so I gave up on it and it was right thing to do, enhancement is a blast to play and I suffered once in bfa 8.0. until 8.1. and buffs to dk’s and then in 8.2,8.3. again suffered. Blizzard dont like Dk’s , just look how garbage they are, I feel sorry every time I kill frost dk or any dk in pvp…
Very generous of you to offer your comedic services to us Twistys, and for free no less …
DK isn’t overpowered, no, and it’s glaringly obvious paired with the game’s most common offenders currently (MM hunter, sub rogue, etc) - I’m just going to assume you weren’t having a very good day at the time of posting and this was your brief vent
I actually think Frost DK is reasonably okay-ish in a PvE setting; I’ve been topping DPS a good bit during my Mythic runs this week and I’ve not felt as if I’ve had to really focus up to do it, though maybe that says more about my groups, but I do wholeheartedly agree that the class feels pretty mediocre at the moment in a PvP setting. Death Strike feels very underwhelming as of the time of posting this given that it’s our one properly reliable self-heal, and our other sources of healing (SP + DB if talented) are chunky heals, but also not all that reliably given one isn’t even baseline and both are on 2 minute CD’s. Lichborne + Death Coil healing isn’t amazing (at least personally) either as Frost and generally starves me of RP for what isn’t a particularly convincing amount of health in return. The damage - in my own experience - is actually not too horrendous, but that’s assuming I actually have the opportunity to dish it out properly rather than trying to keep myself up with a currently lacklustre defensive kit, and “not too horrendous” does tend to feel a lot worse when a MM hunter or sub rogue globals you, or even the occasional Divine Toll paladin
Definitely think there’s some revision to be done of the spec (and Unholy too, if you ask me) and I’m hoping there’s some evaluation in the near future and we’re not overlooked for all that long. I think I’d honestly be content if they just reverted the earlier Death Strike nerf, tbqh
By the way brothers, one of the best legendaries for frost for PvP is available this week in the Coldheart layer of Torghast: Absolute Zero. It reduces the CD of Froswyrm’s Fury by 50% and makes it AoE stun for 3s!
I love that based off a few choice words from complete strangers on a forum of all places, you’re now flaming the Dev team. DKs are in a good place - literally top spot of DPS rankings in Mythic right now if you haven’t seen the recent rankings on WOWhead. Actually play it yourself at 60 instead of bailing because of some malcontent online.
Edit: I appreciate you mean Frost specifically, but still, that’s the benefit of having more than 1 DPS spec, 1 of them is bound to be fine. UH is filth, go for it.
Worst “advice” you can give to someone. If someone is not aiming for the top of top, frost is more than good enough. Other than that, there is always a chance that unholy will be nerfed to oblivion next week or that frost dk will get buffed. Was it worth it to play and gear up/craft legendary for something that was unenjoyable for the player just because it was strong for 3 weeks? Not really.
the entire problem is pvp in this matter, were middle pack in PvE and could definetly use a touch up on frost specs entire design at this point. I dare you to try some arena skirms or rated arena for a week, this week infact and then decide your viewpoint
the only 4 thing i want to se blizzard doing to frost dk especially 2 hand are buffing so glacial advance deal higher damage to the first target it hit and oblit getting tuned slightly more up and the empowered rune weapon getting tuned to become a 1 min cd and for the conduit that gives us strength from frost strike now also working whit glacial oh and glacial giving 2 stacks now instead of 1 stack of razorice.
From what I’ve seen on my frost DK… we have ABSOLUTELY NO DAMAGE outside Killing Machine procs.
And I mean that literally. Obliterate hits for like 800 dmg ffs. The only thing that makes it deal any damage is Killing Machine’s guaranteed crits while converting the damage to frost so it further benefits from Mastery.
I went to BG yesterday and I did nearly zero dmg (as in, even rogues could outheal it, let alone ppl with higher self healing). Especially since you don’t get nearly any KM procs in BG unless your Obliteration is active. The only thing I could do to be semi-useful was running around rooting people, death gripping, and locking them with slappy arm for OTHERS to deal with them, but I myself had nearly zero dmg.
Sure, under KM the Obliterate crits for a lot. BUT. Every other ability hits for like 150-900 and KM procs outside Obliteration are R.A.R.E.
you are dumb or you do this intentionally, let me guess you are using BoS new rp generating talent, and rp runeforge. You realize that does not counter everything else that is wrong with class, it is because of idiots like you that class keeps on getting trashed.
Dont waste your “breath”… ( see what i did there?) it’s one of the false frost players that enjoy’s playing the impostor playstyle of BoS that was forced upon us in Legion, id like to see him try boS in PvP against people with brains, but of course, in PvP we are a slowing and chill streak gimmick most of the time so hey…
I am trying so hard to pull DPS out of my bum with my 191 ilvl frost. When I pop everything, it is fine. Then I wait for years to do some meaningful damage, and in between, my obliterate does nothing. I have to be so perfect with timing my CDs that I lose my damage window when I have to perform certain mechanics in raids. Procs are virtually non existent. Everything feels bland and unrewarding. Frost DK is probably the worst spec in the game, without an ounce of exaggeration.
I don’t even understand the vision behind this spec anymore. What do you want to do with it exactly? Do you want us to be a melee DoT spec? Fine, then revise remorseless winter and breath of sindragosa mechanics. Do you want us to be cooler warriors? Fine, fix Obliterate builds. Or do whatever. At least make us a little viable.