frost mage is not bad in pvp though?
If they keep on buffing it, it will be op as well.
Why nobody plays frost? because fire is busted beyond oblivion and free rating at this point as soon as you can press 3 buttons
This is not valid anymore, because fire was nerfed burst from conduit as well as survivability by nerfing Triune legendary effect, while we still waiting for more nerfs to ww monks and ret palas.
ah right thats why there are still fire mages everywhere including in every team of the awc lul
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It is logical my god do you even use brain ? Fire is still better than frost and arcane so do you know other spec they should play ? When Frost or arcane will by better than they will be everywhere. So you still see fire mages everywhere because after nerfs is fire still best but not top anymore and when frost or arcane will be better than you will see frost mages or arcane mages everywhere it is logical, unless you want from them to stop play mage or you know some secret 4th spec.
DPS is still DPS no matter what. As a mage you play DPS no matter what spec you take as demon hunter you dont have that luxury. If you arent kyrian you dont do dps as vengeance, and news flash most of us havocs arent kyrian. We are eather night fae or venthyr. Being a tank is completely different gameplay from being dps so dont come telling to demon hunter forums that we (havoc) should switch and stop crying. We dont want to play as tank. I dont want to be the person who everyone expects to know everything in a dungeon and expects for me to know how everything is handled while YOU dps can just pew pew. I havent played vengeance at all so dont come telling me to switch to a spec where i have no familiarity nor the right covenant. I dont enjoy tanking nor will i ever enjoy tanking. When i played hunter i learned 2 specs out of it. MM and BM incase i had to switch.
Also dont come telling us frost mage is worse in pvp than havoc…I honest dont understand why you guys who dont play havoc come to these forums telling us we should be at the bottom or we should tank when we want to dps. Does it give you pleasure seeing us being this bad? Because in bfa we might have actually been decent? and when i say decent i mean decent not best like again FIRE MAGES were. Its always the mages who are at the top of the lists. Switching between 3 mage specs isnt rocket science. All of them play quite similar unlike being a tank vs dps
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Your arguments are invalid. Unless you were under drugs or forced to play DH you did know it have only two specs !!! tank and dps, so now crying that you play hybrid and you expect tank spec will by top and dps top at all times is just ridiculous. If you play pure dps class you have full right to complain on dps spec performance because that is your main purpose as pure dps class to do - dps, as hybrid it is not true and if you chose hybrid and go dps, than you cant complain if your dps is behind in some situations or at certain time. You were dominating Legion and BFA and DH dps spec is for braindead. So tell me why should spec for clowns on hybrid class should perform better than specs of pure dps classes ?
Are you for real? Why are you calling us hybrid class? First of all hybrid is if 1 class can do it all. Can havoc tank? No can vengeance do havocs dps no? So no we are not a hybric class. What we are is slobbily made class with 2 specs TANK and DPS. and yes we have the exact same right to complain about our dps as you pure dps classes. You are not above us with your 3 specs. No tank is above vengeance eather. You are unreal you know that…
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As soon as someone even mentions vengeance there is no point in replying to them tbh, Apparently tank and dps is the same role in shadowlands and since vengeance is better than havoc we should all just go vengeance and start tanking according to logic like this.
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All ret pallys in pve should also go holy while we are at it and that would fix ret being bad. If no one plays havoc or ret how can it be bad right? can’t believe blizz didn’t think of this easy fix yet.
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Dont make assumptions of angry kid that cant deal with different opinion than his own. Nobody say you should not play havoc i just said because it is class that can take multiple roles your dps spec should not by between top specs, there is tons of dps, and highest dps should have pure dps classes because they dont have other choice and their are dependant to perform otherwise they are just useless.
How nuts are you?
Most over powered and yet only 1 DH can make it into any raid no matter the size?
Oh yeah sounds very OP.
You are just a little baby that wants to avoid logic because you don’t like DHs.
You actually think it is fine for a class to have only one viably spec out of 2 and can only tank…
Seriously what is your issue that you want to make yourself look this dumb just to whine about DHs?
You are also still missing the fact we are the only non viable class in PVP…
Did a DH main sleep with your mum or something to make you this annoyed and delusional?
So we can’t PVP and only 1 DH can make it into a raid and you don’t think that needs fixed?
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Even with those nerf, mages are still everywhere, do you see any havoc in awc? Again, even with nerf… EVERYWHERE, just stop. Also mages are fotm every tier of every exp
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We are a hybrid class.Why are you even trying to refute this???Having a tank spec is what makes us a hybrid.You make me speachless.
Does that mean we should be bottom dps? Then monks, boomkins, warriors etc need to be bottom too. Also i was thinking of hybrid that can do it all. LIke child between tank and dps that can do it both without switching but yes you are correct we are hybrid still doesnt mean we shouldnt be good.
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Havoc being a hybrid? Bro I think your mistaking demon Hunter for Druid - and yes D H has only 1 dps spec so the expectation is they would get it right because what is the point of having 1 dps spec that does very low ST dmg, are we just there to provide chaos brand and have a shiny demon appearance here and there
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You don’t understand, it isn’t about being the best, it is about being viable.
Right now havoc isn’t viable and there is no point bringing one to a raid or M+ or PVP.
DH is now forced into one thing, tanking which wasn’t the main intention or idea behind DH, it was just an extra.
All we are saying is make Havoc viable.
if you’re not blizzard’s fav pet spec/class…
- Then NO - you’re not getting any buffs and will be ignored for 2 years until next exp!
All those can be done by other classes and other classes can so on thing Havoc cant do they can do damage which is what you want from a dps class do more damage than a tank.
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