I am writing to express my deep dissatisfaction and frustration with the Warsong Gulch experience during the current Season of Discovery. As a dedicated player of your game, I have invested considerable time and effort into enjoying the various aspects of the game, particularly the player versus player (PvP) content.
Unfortunately, my recent experiences in Warsong Gulch have been overwhelmingly negative, and it has become increasingly disheartening to engage in this aspect of the game. The primary issue I wish to address is the prevalence of premade groups that seem to be participating in Warsong Gulch for the wrong reasons, resulting in an unenjoyable and unbalanced gaming experience.
It is evident that a significant number of premade groups are prioritizing victory at the expense of fair and enjoyable gameplay. This not only creates an imbalanced environment but also discourages solo players like myself from participating in Warsong Gulch during this season. The overwhelming majority of matches seem to be determined by the presence of these premade groups, making it nearly impossible for solo players to have a fulfilling experience.
I understand that competition is an integral part of PvP gameplay, but the current situation in Warsong Gulch goes beyond healthy competition. It is disheartening to repeatedly find oneself on the receiving end of one-sided matches where the outcome is predetermined by the presence of a premade group more focused on exploiting the system than engaging in fair play.
I implore Blizzard to consider implementing measures to address this issue and create a more balanced and enjoyable Warsong Gulch experience for all players. Whether through matchmaking adjustments, group size restrictions, or other means, taking steps to discourage the exploitation of the system by premade groups would greatly enhance the overall PvP experience.
I am a passionate supporter of your game and have enjoyed many aspects of it over the years. I believe that addressing these concerns would not only benefit solo players like myself but also contribute to a more positive and inclusive gaming environment for the entire player base.
Thank you for taking the time to consider my complaint. I hope that Blizzar will take proactive steps to rectify the current issues in Warsong Gulch and continue to provide a gaming experience that is fair, balanced, and enjoyable for all.
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The primary issue I wish to address is the prevalence of premade groups that seem to be participating in Warsong Gulch for the wrong reasons
The reason has always been the same, even before 20y ago. Farm honor/rep in less time with the best efficiency ratio. And yes, they wont disable premades,nor limit us.
taking steps to discourage the exploitation of the system by premade groups would greatly enhance the overall PvP experience
Your problem is actually solved. The are more 2 versions of world of wacraft which are solo friendly. Also it takes exactly 5 mins to find or fill up your personal created premade group.
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play a different game isnāt the big brain response you think it is.
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Thatās quite the assumption, my friend!
Most premades, in fact, are opting for faster and more assured reward acquisition, i.e. rep from Revered to Exalted, over trying to do so in disorganised and shambolic environments; thereās nothing wrong with this, nor is there inherently anything āunfairā about getting with other people beforehand to optimise comp and synergise.
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Why does the OP look like it was written with ChatGPT.
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In the time it took you to make this post, you could have made a premade. Stop being lazy, and the game will reward you for your effort
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To be unfair. Youd have to be unable to do the same.
Im sorry. But regardless of stance on this, its not unfair im afraid, we are on fair grounds, with the same opportunities.
Seperating queues will default make 1 side entirely win. This is due to queue lengths will drift further snd further apart and will result in the next complaint āehy am i subbed to a game taking a hour to get inā
I play the game for 20 years and I only did one WSG in SoD. It was a premade pug stomping situation and I afked out.
I wonāt ever do any BGs on any character for the foreseeable future unless they separate premades from pugs.
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ofc, Zede and Nokaā¦ 
defending the premades feeding grounds.
but unfortunatelly, Blizzard will start bleeding money/clients soon and you will have less and less solo quers to stompā¦
and then, there will be no posts on the forums too, for you to troll.
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Thatās what you donāt understand. The vast majority of players will adapt and join Premades, 50% of all premades are against premades now, and itās incrasing all the time.
A small percentage, ie the solo queue snowflakes refuse to compomise in anyway, shout the loudest and tell everyone they represent the wow player base, and you just donāt, itās that simple. A shouty minority, thatās all you are.
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to be honest, this week I only played premades.
out of ~30 games, there were 2 games vs other premade.
so, no 50% of premade vs premade encountered.
but what I can tell you, is that the fun is no longer present in this kind of minmaxed PvP. (maybe I am just nostalgic and I am idealizing the old Vanilla and old Classic WoW.)
I just like facing random comps in random unranked BGs and not be 90% sure itās going to be against 3x hpriest, 3-4x hunter, 1x warrior, 1x feral and 1 or 2 random āMake-A-Wish foundationā class(es).
Even if they were PUGs it would become boring for me.
last 10 games, this evening, premade x 7 PuG x 3. Needs more data.
WSG has always been like this and will always be like this. Itās a bad battleground where premades go to farm the fastest honor vs pugs. Go do some WPVP in any of the contested zones or do some duels if you want to have fun. If you still insist on doing WSG either make your own premade or AFK out when you face when and go next.
were you solo or in a premade?
in 2 premades, won 5 lost 5, 4 of 7 vs premades were lost !
This post is 100% correct. Premades have killed phase 1 wsg experience for anyone who queues solo or the new/inexperienced players. Imo blizzard should have capped the rep for wsg at honored or revered like eveything esle in sod but to be honest I donāt think that would solve the premades vs pug issue because most people who play wow want to pvp and that means itās gunna be min maxed/ meta gamed the fun out of regardless it be worth something(pvp gear).
Itās blizzards job to level the playing field or at least try to make the game interesting and fun to play for everyone which is definitely not be done right now in respects of wsg. Tbf sod has been alot of fun and blizzard should be praised for that but pvp is the biggest part of wow imo and needs to be balanced better for sod to be successful past phase 2/3
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For me, the only reason Iām doing warsong gulch is solely for reaching exalted, I play on premades because it is easier to coordinate games and increase the odds of victory, once exalted warsong will become irrelevant because in classic thereās no joy in spending the day in it
Id quite rather do world pvp with my friends or do dungeon/raid runs.
Arathi Basin will become my next priority since itās far easier to obtain rep points.
If you want to excel in wsg you need to coordinate with your friends/guildies.
Now if Blizz announces a new way of queueing Warsong solo, then good on them but you guys must accept that will be very unlikely to happen, itās probably better to;
#1: just do it and be done with it and win and lose games for those marks,
Or 2# form a community and create a team to improve the gameplay experience.
But if youāre only doing it for āfunā thereās a chance that it would be pointless since some players are there specifically for a fast win for Marks and Rep accumulation.
If you donāt enjoy Warsongs, thatās fine, just do world PvP or do Ashenvale events or dungeonsā¦ youāre not being forced to play these Bgs.