Further Holy Paladin nerfs and finally Vesper Totem nerf

9.2

Shaman

  • Elysian Dirge’s (Conduit) recent change has been reverted back to increasing Vesper Totem’s effectiveness by 60–100% based on item level (was 123–212%).

That’s positive but H Paladin’s situation stops being fun. Not only 4 set bonus is getting nerfed so LoD has only 50% chance to lower Wings CD but… this:

https://www.wowhead.com/spell=137029/holy-paladin

They nerfed most of H Paladins damage spells by 17% and buffed… Concecration…

H Paladin will need separate PvP tuning if it will continue going this direction.

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The spriest nerf as well for necro is pretty strong, and the set got nerfed as well.

I guess we could see people play venthyr back (the cov leg is trash) or maybe kyrian (the dmg will be probably better than necro overall I think).

The hpal one is rough, I don’t get it.

Venthyr isn’t bad even right now just fits into different comps like Shadowplay and Shatterplay.

P.S. I’m reading patch notes again and here actually it looks like it’s 6% buff for H Paladin.

https://www.wowhead.com/news/9-2-ptr-build-42174-class-and-spell-changes-holy-paladin-buff-kyrian-druid-nerf-325850

They have really strange way of describing things.

Another huge thing is change to Bonedust Brew. It has it’s damage increased but cannot crit anymore. So it will deal more damage than in lowest goes but wouldn’t erase someone in a sec. Also Keefer’s won’t be as good with it.

maybe its time to try another heal spec in arena for once…

I’m not even playing Paladin but we have 5 Healing specs so all of them should be viable and offer something else.

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I already feel like i do no healing outside of wings

Finally they removed this nonsensical mana cost for windfury totem. Now please revert the shamanism nerf.

This is of course PvE oriented change so maybe there will be come PvP tuning.

I don’t think 9.2 Enha is going to play Doom Winds or Bloodlust to be fair. Legacy of the Frost Witch and more Mastery oriented builds seem to be the way to go.

I hope so we already pretty much the worst healer right now compared to the other healers

That’s a good thing. Back to a more consistent dmg oriented playstyle at which enh should be about all along.

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whenever i played frost witch i found the value pretty lackluster. Kinda only boosts dmg if you have 100% uptime, but enhance gets kited so easily that it feels bad.

Maybe everything will revolve around ele blast but doesn’t feel great either

That’s why you need more mastery.

Hate to break it to ya’ll, but those vesper nerfs are nerfs to a PTR buff, which simply brings it back down to live values

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The second you have to give up earthen spike for elemental spirits due to 4-setbonus youre probably going to have to play wolf bones/night fae though?

I landed a 47k crit in a brawl on PTR followed by a PW lightning bolt of total 40k, that felt pretty great :slight_smile:

like others classes aswell. pvp should be always separated from pve at tuning. now try to send this message DM to Ion Roflkostas, but something tells me, he don’t care about this.

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The core passives exist for each specs and have existed for a while. What you link isn’t a -17% nerf going into 9.2.

NF is overkill. 2set procing Spirit Wolf also procs 4 set. Imo Venthyr is still the way to go. Chain Harvest CD reset is extra survivability. Nadja also have that Haste buff so maybe you can sacrifice even more Haste. Same thing with Necro Lego. I think NF is actually the worst. You don’t need to reset Spirit Wolves CD and I can’t imagine Enha being in meele combat channeling Fae Transfusion suddenly.

Well yes but with Versatility bonus nerf isn’t it going to hit for less? The only way to increase it’s damage is Int and it’s limited with ilvl. Versatility part will be 40% smaller. Set doesn’t synergize with Vesper. The only thing that can actually work is Elemental Equilibrium which is 15% more damage but it’s still less than what you get from Versa set bonus % wise.

Of course, but it’s not really a nerf to a specific component if it’s the same value as on live :slight_smile:

I know but at the end it will be weaker than it’s on live. All recent changes seem to make the meta slower. I think that Demo locks might be next.

Well I don’t know any company providing patch notes in more complicated way. It seems that actually they are buffing heals by 6%. It might make sense when they remove highest level of Avengening Wrath. Basically more damage and healing outside of wings but less on Wings. I’m actually fan of it.