Fury spec bonuses

Funkykittié-ravencrest · January 13, 2024, 2:59pm

Season 1; even tho a lost hope, 100% would be the most fun, as we would get to see warriors dev scurry in panic, trying to make it viable

Either they would have to make the execute crit chance bonus, into huge crit damage bonus - or they would have to… buff our baseline damage

Either or, it would have been fun - perhaps… it would be the situation where dooming would go into overdrive and actually be for a good reason. Fury S4 with a 2.5% tierset… now that, that would be funny to watch the fallout from

Garlogar-twisting-nether · January 13, 2024, 3:27pm

Hello guys first time posting on the forums and please excuse me for any bad english you may encounter.I made some rough calculations(an estimate if you prefer) and it seems that s2 set and s3 set are head to head with each other and maybe the difference is lower than 200 votes (a bit more than 1.5 % of the people who voted ).Which leads me to think that the best option for blizzard is to either give warriors the option to pick whatever season set they like or design a solid season 4 set for fury warrior,combining set bonuses from the previous 3 seasons and giving alternatives other than forcing people to use odyn’s fury. P.S stay zug zug

Imemmz-kazzak · January 13, 2024, 4:55pm

vote s3 pls its better than s1 and s2

Imemmz-kazzak · January 13, 2024, 5:29pm

My vote is for Season 3, as it is has been by far the most flexible and engaging playstyle.

While it has been said that things would be retuned for the new Season, it also isn’t without notice that Season 3 is the strongest Fury has been in raid throughout Dragonflight, and it remains very competitive in Mythic+ as well - only beaten out by egregiously overperforming meta specs.

Truth of the matter though, is that S3 has the smoothest and most forgiving mechanics.

Varghio-shattered-hand · January 13, 2024, 5:57pm

Note
The top warrior players for m+ like critecake bizentein telling you to vote s2 fury just trolling you they end up play arms anyways! Dont listen to them!

Imemmz-kazzak · January 13, 2024, 6:09pm

Season 1 is fundamentally flawed. The amount of damage Execute would need to do to become a priority button over the rotational mainstays is untenable. Even after dramatically buffing the set in Patch 10.0.5, it was still one of the weakest bonuses in the history of the game.

Season 2 is contentious - many people like it not because of the set itself, but because it used the Anger Management/Ravager build, which is a fan favorite in Mythic+. Unfortunately, the mechanics of the actual tier are lackluster and inflexible, revolving around a WeakAura to track a stacked up buff that has too many failure points to be reliable - one bad parry, boss phase, or tank taking a longer route results in your buff falling and the big payoff moment doing absolutely nothing. Not to mention having to align it with Spear of Bastion.

Season 3 is also somewhat contentious as some players simply dislike the idea of using Slam, but truth of the matter is that Slam is an extremely minor part of the rotation - used about 1/10th as much as Bloodthirst or Rampage. On the other hand, the build flows fairly smoothly, and while the damage is also centered into burst periods that can fail if you use Odyn’s Fury at an inopportune time, it isn’t a wholly one-time payout, but rather drawn out throughout the burst phase. Season 3 is also the most flexible in terms of talent choice, with the smallest gap between Spear of Bastion and Thunderous Roar (generally the biggest complaint from Fury players throughout S1-2).

Funkykittié-ravencrest · January 13, 2024, 6:09pm

If S2 goes through, maybe OF gets a baseline buff of 51% more damage and fire school.

So, either I get to play s3 OF again, or OF maybe - gets buffed - so I can play it in S2.

Win/Win

… now to find more copium

Visionwb-twisting-nether · January 13, 2024, 6:23pm

People vote for s3 because of its single target big numbers on bloodbath, but it’s not as good as s2 in aoe and it’s also not fun to play. They could just tune s2 better for single target, like buff roar so it overtakes spear or anything else… like, fury would need massive buffs on aoe to overtake dh or the other top classes anyway, if they were ever afraid of that.

Gagrona-twisting-nether · January 13, 2024, 6:32pm

but S2 feels alot better to play, you are playing fury in S2, i dont know what S3 is trying to do, but it does not feel good to press BF in S3 as it did in S2, it might do more dmg but you have no build up or nothing.

Foursugars-draenor · January 13, 2024, 6:51pm

Do you have any original thoughts of your own?

Because what you did here, is just copy and paste Archimtiros post from the NA forum.

Yagnnar-tarren-mill · January 13, 2024, 7:10pm

You do understand, there is reason why Season 2 is vastly superior option compared to season 3.

Firstly Season 2 was playable in both Annihilator, and Raging Blow builds, Raging Blow did more damage but you could play Annihilator anyway and do decent in casual level of play. I never did, but that was clearly a option.

Season 2 build also played around ONLY 3 TALENTS THAT WERE CHANGED FOR FURY WARRIOR THIS ENTIRE EXPANSION. Onslaught, Ravager, and Anger Management, play very well with each other because unlike rest of our tree this talents have actual synergy with other parts of our kit. Enrage, and Recklessness as well as Rampage as our main rage spender are all affected by Season 2 teir set, and talent build.

Odyns Fury, and Annihilator were not touched, they offer 0 synergies with anything else in Fury talent tree, and without CD reduction of tier set bonus, this build would be outright nonfunctional.

If Odyns Fury was actually good talent to play around, then the conversation and my argument would be different. In its current state, by choosing Season 3 you are picking a vastly inferior, clunky, and undercooked part of our spec.

Seb-veknilash · January 13, 2024, 7:24pm

Is fury really that hard that we need to remove buttons?

Yagnnar-tarren-mill · January 13, 2024, 7:27pm

Do you really think we will see changes to Odyns Fury before Season 4, hell before next expansion?

Funky, you and me had our disagreements, but I know that we both agree Odyns Fury needs to change. And the fact that Season 3 focuses on it so much is enough for me to not even consider it as a vote.

I like big numbers, I like execute phase, but I am protesting against Odyns Fury in this case.

Funkykittié-ravencrest · January 13, 2024, 7:32pm

No worries, I got copium for days

Seb-veknilash · January 13, 2024, 8:03pm

2Set: Same + Bonus Execute Crit Dmg X%

Execute Grants 2 Stacks of Slaughtering Strikes.
Aura buff to Adjust.
Done

Smokinace-kazzak · January 13, 2024, 8:51pm

I think season 1 is by far the best for fury gameplay on df.
Season 2 have this problem that you can’t use your defense cd because it’s dps loss, for me i think it’s interesting gameplay for dps class you don’t just zerg zerg zerg dps sometimes you need to give up some dps in order to live longer. But in the other hand its just healers job to not let you die anyway other dps classes don’t don’t sacrifice dps in their set to do damage.
Season 1 gives the most talents freedom and all around usage in raids pvp m+ its good on everything.
Season 1 with better tuning and buffs would make everyone happy the people who want to play ravger+ anger management and anni+ odyn fury.
I would like to everyone to vote 1 but i don’t think that’s possible

Funkykittié-ravencrest · January 14, 2024, 1:41am

Seems like the word is spreading that you can make multiple characters to vote multiple times.

Now the fun begins - it is now a true war

Funkykittie-ravencrest · January 14, 2024, 1:46am

Well, good things we don’t have multiple characters, am I right?

Funkykitty-draenor · January 14, 2024, 1:48am

That doesn’t work, you two are being silly.

Funkykitty-ravencrest · January 14, 2024, 1:49am

That would make one player able to make as many votes as they want, wouldn’t it?