I play both. But most allyside on Nek’Rosh. And that where I looked.
But of course all bots moved SoD 
I really have to admit, i don’t know where you are getting your number. i just checked for each level from the time you get to do the first dungeon with “/who” from lvl 18 to 60 included there is barely 250 players connected right now. And there hasn’t been a single message in “/world /LFG” for over a hour. no one in my guild have been in another layer than 1
Well I am not in mood to count all - but still 3 layers - yesterday in evening it rose to 6.
But I see from number of people dying that not so many play now. I suspect they return when tired of SoD.
Still soultion is not merge, but remove layers.
Dungeons still happen, and I am often see lfg when in cities (have World and LFG disabled as I not do dungeons)
Well I am not in mood to count all - but still 3 layers - yesterday in evening it rose to 6.
But I see from number of people dying that not so many play now. I suspect they return when tired of SoD.
Still soultion is not merge, but remove layers.
Dungeons still happen, and I am often see lfg when in cities (have World and LFG disabled as I not do dungeons)
Obviously you are not in mood for counting when there is no one to count. barely 110 palyer on Friday. What’s the fun in running around alone in WoW, when the classic experience was supposed to play with friend, people, community. if i wanted a solo dead game i would just play Diablo 4.
How is a solution removing layers!? That won’t help in finding your healer or tank or whatever for your dungeon…
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A solution for world look empty, as what pepole also complain.
A solution to lack healer, tank and DPS is wait for SoD to lose interest. Already now people returning. More die at least now 
Good news for you. Now I count Sunday evening; from level 5 - 60 is 446 online. I was no mood count 1-4, just too many, so 1, 2, 3, 4 Dwarf, Human etc. I did not want do.
Game not at all dead, people chatting, selling and so on.
I also see many more dying So suspect people ARE now returning from SoD.
446 people on a sunday is almost empty since it’s the day everyone play.
from 5 to 60 you have 55 level range if the level are evenly distributed you have 446/55 only 8 people for each level ? you usually play with people that are in a range of -/+3 level.
So you get a maximum of ~45 players that “can” play with you in the whole map of WoW. I barely cross anyone on the road if i’m not in a capital.
If we go back 4 weeks back, there was still 35-50+ player at each level, and i still had struggle to find people do elite quest or dungeon when going above level 25 and below 50.
Well from deathlog i hardly have more than one page of death on Nek’Rosh during the week. And even if people return, the fact that you will not have anyone to level up with or not be able to acces some high level content because the player base is gone will just make people left HC after a single death.
You sure play very little to have only one page deathlog for whole week. I have back to december 11th 6½ pages in deathlog. Yes on Nek’Rosh.
And I repeat from other thread: Only in HC players are NOT evenly distributed 
Low levels are filled. 10 -20 is more than ½ the player base, wich fit death statistics - barely any is above 50 - so what you say sounds smart, only is not true.
You sure play very little to have only one page deathlog for whole week. I have back to december 11th 6½ pages in deathlog. Yes on Nek’Rosh.
I explain myself badly on that one, i was meaning one page a day during the week. But has you showed, 6½ in 7 days. and almost all of those death are people below 20. So just the same people dieing over and over again.
And I repeat from other thread: Only in HC players are NOT evenly distributed
Low levels are filled. 10 -20 is more than ½ the player base, wich fit death statistics - barely any is above 50 - so what you say sounds smart, only is not true.
I was expecting you would bring that up. We both know that the players base is mainly grouped around level 1-20 and 60.
So between 20-59 you have no one to play with, and even you find people you will end up most probably without a tank or a heal or both. So we get back to original point where you can’t do half of the content because of lacking player base, and playing alone in dead game is not what you look for in WoW, specially in HC.
Yes? and I say not everyone use deathlog. Is just for fun addon. If you click corpses in world, you’ll see only about 1 in 4 or less have Deathlog addon. Most die low level, and populate lowbie zones agan and again, but fairly many - and most of these in Guild and minus addon - die at 30 + and go again most of them.
If you’re not online all day, but like me couple hours, I say 25 deaths with addon is many people, after all I guess people learn no die so much.
In the 20es you even have 124.
70 in their 30es and 85 in their 40es, is still not no one.
Probably people of those level not want do much dungeons and risk life to PUG - I won’t
I would recommend you join a good Guild, instead trying trash talk HC in forums.
Yes? and I say not everyone use deathlog. Is just for fun addon. If you click corpses in world, you’ll see only about 1 in 4 or less have Deathlog addon. Most die low level, and populate lowbie zones agan and again, but fairly many - and most of these in Guild and minus addon - die at 30 + and go again most of them.
If you’re not online all day, but like me couple hours, I say 25 deaths with addon is many people, after all I guess people learn no die so much.
Just so you know the only guild doing raid, can’t even do raid anymore. Even by joining force with the second largest guild they struggle to have a roster. If the biggest guild tell you “sorry we are not sure you’ll be able to access HL content, because people that die doesn’t combeack” you are leaving behind a large part of good and long time player that would normally stay.
In the 20es you even have 124.
70 in their 30es and 85 in their 40es, is still not no one.
Probably people of those level not want do much dungeons and risk life to PUG - I won’t
I would recommend you join a good Guild, instead trying trash talk HC in forums.
That’s still 270 people on 30 differents level, 8 players on each level. Still that’s definitely no one on the map. When people in the good guild as you say “Hardcore Elite/Deathblow” have to wait more than 1 hour to form a group for dungeons below 60. you are certain that you will most probably not attempt any if you are not part of their guild.
Sorry i’m in an active and good guild. But hey when there is 10 post about merging server and 50 peoples saying that they have to wait to a dungeon or elite and end up being too high level to enjoy the content. But you the only guy against it because
No thanks. We need 2 servers one for Streamers, and one for normel persons.
I’m pretty sure you are the toxic one around, fighting everyone on the forum because things don’t go your way
xxx i happen to delete all I say when correcting.
I just want repeat one sentence.
If toxic mean saying how you think, then much of people on Forum is toxic.
No point to discuss further with you, even if i bring whatever point, argument, exemple, fact. You just answer “that’s not enough HC is doing well and not dieing, i just cross the road of a player within 2hour see there is people on the game, no point to merge”
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I feel the total same, no matter what argument I give you for is not so bad, getting better you just say: Is dying, is dying … Let’s just stop here and agree to disagree. And time will prove one of us right.
My take on this is as follows:
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people do not trust Blizzard to create stable Megarealm. Stitches killed more than 4000 players just in server lags. You want to force everyone into lag bog again. What if at least 25% of SoD players return? Will we get another lag wave after merge?
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people do not trust Blizzard’s dynamic layering experiments. They do not want to find themselves amount field of instantly respawning mobs for the third time in matter of a minute.
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Some people wait for SF and mostl of them will do it solo. Low pop is ideal for them.
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If Blizzard truly wanted to revitalise HC raiding they could add Semi HC mode for end game, where lvl 60 characters would be ressurected in some way. They could make it more RP, like killing boss or mob type that killed your main, finding his/her soul in soulstone in mob’s loot and releasingfallen character soul from it, keep items of fallen character as Heirloom bag that would be handed to your new character of the same class after he/she reaches lvl 60 or just mass ressurect every lvl 60 in waves like 1 month later.
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Thanks.
people do not trust Blizzard to create stable Megarealm. Stitches killed more than 4000 players just in server lags. You want to force everyone into lag bog again. What if at least 25% of SoD players return? Will we get another lag wave after merge?
When did those lag happends ? When the player base was peak of the game and when they release SOD. So no point to talk about that. When there is 100 players currently on the server on ally side. (At the starting of the subject, we were about 2000 ally players on the server Nek’Rosh)
How many time that did happend to me in 4 month of playing ? Once, only once when i play for 12h a day. If you accept a group proposition in a middle of a camp and get layered that’s on you.
We are talking about a so small fraction of the population, that you are the first telling me that.
I agree in some part if they want to revitalise HC they must do something. But creating a Semi HC in HC, like having you character back in the game doesn’t make the experience HC anymore. The whole point is risking it all, you don’t play poker and then ask for a refund when loose an all in.
Who said pure HC would be retired? full HC guilds would still exist, while not so experienced, griefed and others who lost their characters would keep the servers running.
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Just give him up. He old, bitter, determined to say NO! to every thing players not agree with him say.
He never have lag, layering problem ect. He maybe very lucky, and not play when lag happen Other still complain layer or hyperspwans killed them (me almost 2 days ago).
SSF is not few. Addon-players vere many, many want that atmosphere back (not me - I happy with official HC mode).
I said back in unofficial HC that official would be dead by Christmas. While it may not be dead dead, the player base is dropping off quite considerably. The atmosphere and believe it or not the social aspect of official HC is weaker than it was in unofficial HC.
Don’t fix what is not broken.