really not that big of a problem. since it’s mostly dps
tuning issue not mechanics.
fyrakk has 4 of those
fyrakk has debuff too, also healers need to heal adds, golems have enrage , seed are an issue , there are blazes and tornados everywhere with random frontals.
hc lk isn’t hard it just tuned to be ‘‘strict’’ so players can feel like it’s hard .
positioning is a way bigger issue in Fyrakk than it is on LK .
Top guilds ran as many Warlocks as they could to overcome it. Valk RNG plays significant role in the difficulty of the fight. Warlocks and Hunters can entirely negate the mechanic, though Hunters come with a risk since they need to disengage back on to the platform, taking some level of skill.
It’s not a tuning “issue” - Tuning is the bulk of fight difficulty. Due to tuning, it’s currently possible to kill Fyrakk so quickly in P2 that you skip the entirety of P3 mechanics, in essence, and pugs are doing it this way already so we’re not just talking elite guilds.
The seeds are the highest skill role in the fight because you have to keep them alive by not getting hit by any mechanics, but you can assign your highest skill players to the role. A good seed holder can to some extent offset the effects of having an idiot in your raid.
i know this and part of why it’s not a big problem
yeah you’re still talking about the guilds here even tho you say pugs because only curved pugs can do this now. also avoiding the mechanic doesn’t make it a good mechanic.
do you even pug ? you keep saying highest skill players and assignments like i can already see you’ve never been to a pug group or just did with the overgeared ones. no one assigns seeds in pugs people volunteer for that if no one volunteers than the range dps gets assigned most of the time so no. that’s not how it works. also you keep suggestiong COORDINATION which is the problem we’re pointing out here. if there weren’t this many personal mechanics that could wipe raid , coordination wouldn’t be this critical. you’re just agreeing with us but you don’t know what we’re saying
In the end we’re circling around to your problem here. You want unorganised pugs to be able to easily defeat the boss by making it mechanically more simple and less punishing. If a pug is doing it then it’s a “curved” pug, as if you can just swipe off anything with that.
Yes I’m sure that unorganised groups of players who lack direction and experience cannot beat the Heroic Endboss of a raid tier and I think that is completely fine and normal. If it was that so easy that it could be pugged in such a way, why do we even have normal mode?
Mythic is genuinely hard, and I think an argument can be made about it simply being too hard, but HC is pugged successfully thousands of times a week and is easily overgeared.
Raid mechanic are becoming worse and worse and I dont mean difficult,I mean worse
My guild asigns me in p3 to carry seeds and guess what thats when the blood lust is,so instead of actually enjoying it,I have to run around like a headless chicken dropping picking up a seed and dodging stuff whilst trying to put some damage in
I dont call that fun,neither dropping to the bottom of the dmg meters because of it,gonna make me wanna do the boss again and again
this but unironically
How does doing the need impact your dps?
Why are you lusting P3?
most pugs lust in p3
last time I lusted p2 in a pug, they wanted to kick me :V
I literally wrote why it affects my dps. Cant you read?
I did read it, I disagree that doing the mechanic has a significant impact on your dps. I also think lusting in P3 on heroic is stupid.
I dont really care about what you agree and disagree
Have a great one
p3 is easy in pugs. you place 3 markers. 1 on the left of boss 1 in mid and 1 on the right.
you say that seeds go Left EVERYONE else goes Right. Activate seeds in middle and give an order to seed activation.
never had in issue with this strat by typing it in chat. if your still loosing seeds you got bad players so remove them.
Fyrakk is the easiest HC Boss since a long time.
Even easier than the sl HC enbosses.
The mechanics are straight forward and not as hectic as the others.
But just my 2 cent
No, it is not. You supposed to assign main carriers + 2 supporters if someone of them wiped earlier, put marks where the carriers zone and everybody else should stay a mile away from there and another mark for everybody else and then assign a seed order, that’s it.
I’m always doing it and doesn’t see any problem with that. Even more - i’m glad to do that so I have a better control about overall boss completion and ensure that nobodys fail will lead to wipe.
it means someones lazy legs didn’t moved far enough from a camp. Is it seed related? No. it’s just a lazyness and no willing to do mechanics properly.
I left on 3 pulls since there’s not use in staying wiping.
No, you have 4 kills logged and only in one did you meet your fictional requirement of 170k. At 484 ilevel…
Keep up.
I have done 4 runs now 
this boss is easy. also thanks.
only boring part if you join an wipe group. Yestoday i saw a DH doing 1mil dps.
then one person with seed dies, another one burns their seed …
nobody’s suggesting the boss itself is hard. it is easy. it justs requires coordination which is so hard with wow pugs.
people don’t follow those marks they fail .
High Tinker Mekkatorque HC had ONE thing that was hell to manage without voice coms
Fyrakk is not that kinda Fight in PUG
it’s just that OP is playign with terrible players that’s all
you know those people making PuG raid and saying things like
mythic raid lead or multicurved leader or zerg RUN one shot
or fyrrak only only CURVED 