So Gamma bosses gives the same loots than Beta ones? What is the rationale here…?
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Because all the good loot is off the Scourgestones, with Dungeon Finder you don’t get locked to heroics so you can just spam all day
It gives the same loot and 3 badges (1 scourgestone, 1 triumph, 1 conquest), in prev phase it was only 1 badge of conquest so you can gear pretty fast now with different badges.
They could at least add 232 loot from ToC 10 as no one would do it anymore in phase 4.
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I think they just focused on guaranted items now, not on random drop, especially with RDF, or people will just leave dungeons with no drop for them.
That happened allready in Betas with sidereal essence vendor. The went on the path of giving 10ppl raid loot in Heroic alpha and so one, while buffing 10ppl raid to give 25ppl raid loot, but Gammas do not have previous tier 10ppl loot and neither was ToC 10 loot buffed to give away like 245 items instead of 232 ilvl it has.
So they destroyed Ulduar 25 normal and ruined Valanir farming off guild or GDKPs (that have static rosters, except for a few buyers, so essentially a guild) in phase 3 by giving 232 gear in 10ppl Ulduar, but refuse to do so with ToC 25 in phase 4?
Yes but now gear is much easier obtainable with new currency then in betas because emblems drop from each boss and also no daily limit with RDF. I think that speed of new eblems and guaranted 245 loot obtain, compensates that here is no 10 ppl random drop loot. Also, in parallel with farming new currency you also get emblems of triumph to purchase 232 set pieces which is pretty cheap.
even without these changes no one would go to Ulduar normal, ok we have 2 situations:
- Hardcore/Semi-hardcore guilds, some good GDKPs, that continue to go to Ulduar for 252 bis pieces (with or without this loot change).
- Ultra-Casual guilds or fast GDKPs with a lot of naked buyers and minimum effort, but it is much easier for them to go to ToC-10 or ToC-25 (normal, maybe some bosses heroic) that is much faster then Uld-25 normal and awards 232/245 gear. So, Ulduar-25 NORMAL was destroyed because of ToC and not because of Uld-10 gear in Uld-25.
Still Ulduar possessed some good loot even for normal runs like Scale of fates from Thorim. If Blizzard would remake HM to drop only 252 pieces, but normal to have current 1 525 item system in phase 3, the normal mode 25ppl Ulduar would get attention it needed.
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