Garrison/Order Hall/Mission Table/Covenant button and character level

I’m far from the first person to write on this issue, but putting a little bit more data in there maybe could help in getting this … I don’t know, maybe fixed? It’s a legacy thing, which means I understand it being low quality, but this game is supposed to be so much more than just the latest patch.

So… we get that shiny minimap button for our garrison, order hall, BFA mission table or covenant. However, it seems like Blizzard never expects us to interact with those except when it was current content, despite them being required for many quests, obtaining transmogs and artifact appearances, and so on.

The way it currently appears to work is as follows: When you first unlock your Garrison (doable as early as about level 10) or Order Hall (same), it will give you this button. If you have both, the Legion button will override the Garrison, being newer content.
Then, at level 33, this button will vanish, because the game now expects you to go unlock the BFA mission table. This in itself is a bug, considering that the earliest level you can do the quests to unlock the table is 35, but even then many people might not care to collect war resources for the unlock quest, especially if they are levelling in WoD or Legion already.
So far so good anyway… after this, as soon as you hit level 50 the BFA button will also vanish, until you select your covenant. Now, with Threads of Fate this can be done pretty soon… but Blizzard are killing Threads for all characters not already on it, so I then expect that the button will be gone until you have completed enough of the campaign to choose a covenant.

The way this appears to work in game is that the button code most likely checks for the results of the function C_Garrison.GetLandingPageGarrisonType() - this function will return what the game considers to be your highest Garrison type - 2 for WOD Garrison, 3 for Legion Order Hall, 9 for BFA Mission Table or 111 for Shadowlands Covenant. It is this function that is malfunctioning primarily - it should likely return your highest actually unlocked expansion landing page, but it does not and this causes your minimap button to go on vacation from time to time.

So, for a TLDR, here are what I would say are the issues and fixes - from minimum viable to slightly more fleshed out:

  • Once you have a “Garrison” of some kind unlocked, that button should never become unavailable. If you want to give people the option to hide it that is perfectly fine, but for those who have need of it you are just taking away part of their interface and driving them away from your game’s legacy content. The “next level” of button should get added in when that button becomes unlocked, and the previous one should be available completely until then.

  • Without addons or slash commands to run scripts, it is currently impossible to go back and look at an earlier mission table landing page. Addons have shown that it is far from difficult to simply add tabs to allow the player to switch between them and again - taking away parts of a player’s interface because they level up is not a good design unless they consent to it.

  • Slightly more niche as you can work around it as long as the above two are fixed: The minimap button also has additional information functionality, in that it glows and pulses when you have something that wants your attention (finished missions, a building that is complete, and the like) - once you have “ranked past” a mission table this functionality breaks, which would be annoying if, for example, a player is lvl 35+ but wants to do their Legion order hall quests (many of which cannot be done until level 45, I will remind you). Many such quests require the player to complete Order Hall missions, and not having a notification that your mission is complete anymore is a negative to Quality of Life. Ideally, the pulse should be there for any of the garrison-type features the player has active. If you actually implement a tabbed system to select between them, then the relevant tab could glow/pulse when you open the screen, as a simple suggestion for QoL functionality, but even just a glow that we need to hunt down the source of would be better than nothing.

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I do feel sorry for you, because Blizzard simply wont care about your wall of text. Or anything posted here in the EU forums at all.

As for the bug itself: The devs certainly are able to identify and fix the issue themselves.
Hovever:

Blizzard.
Do.
Not.
Care.
About.
Legacy.
Content.
Dot.

You can provide in-game bug reports all day every day, and it will remain ignored because Blizzard couldn’t care less about legacy content.

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Yeah it should have separate tabs so you can check these things

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Oh, I’m unfortunately very well aware of both of these points.

But I’m still going to document this nonsense, even if they never do anything about it…

Honestly, I feel like what WoW would really need is a dedicated Legacy team within their dev team. But that’s unlikely to ever happen as the game continues to fall apart.

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This bothers me a lot. Because beside SL mission table, I also do Garrison since I recently started to do WoD campaign and questing there. It doesn’t make sanse to keep it only the current expansion and I would really like to see something like when you howerover the button it shows you all options (WoD,Legion, SL) and you can click on one and open the tab. Sometimes I put my followers on missions and completely forget on it or if I want to check is the mission done I have to use hearthstone to garrison/order hall and check the table. Such a small change could make really big QoL.

P.S. if you have any kind of addon, please share :slight_smile:

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Yeah, also interested in that (and the addon OP mentioned). It’s a pain to move between garrisons to check on missions.

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Only ones I know that are updated are:

https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/master-plan

https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/war-plan

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Garrison isnt too bad TBH because you get a hearthstone and can easily pop back.
The others are a PITA though.

I agree with everything you said, but I do think it could have been said with fewer words and likely would get you more upvotes that way, you get mine either way.

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I think the addon MasterPlan lets you right click the icon on the mini map and select the one you have unlocked.
I can switch between my garrison, order hall, war table and covenant tab.

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https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/garrisonswitch works to let you switch via tabs, as long as you do a few edits to make it work with 10.0

Most likely - but I wanted to elaborate a little and lay out problems and solutions. While it’s longer to read, it’s also more helpful. But I’ll try to do better to do a very short and catchy TLDR at the start in the future! =)

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MasterPlan does have the right click functionality, and that’s something I’d also like to see become baseline to be honest. Having the game hide your garrison (and order hall) as you level up is just frustrating TBH.

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They should make one table to rule them all.

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