Gatekeeping in RP – Where do we draw the line?

Stay tuned for ‘Pathologies of Argent Dawn’.

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And this is where gatekeeping falls apart because in every hobby, there will always be different types of hobbyist, especially in an environment that is open to a general audience and that gatekeepers have no form of legitimate control over, and no amount of gatekeeping will deter a passionate newbie who does things the wrong way.

In roleplaying, there are always going to be edgy power fantasy self-inserters if you are roleplaying in an accessible public space, the lowest common denominator. No matter much gatekeepers want to gatekeep, they don’t have the power or the authority to prevent or even discourage the power fantasy edgelords from roleplaying in Duskwood or the Second Life roleplayers from roleplaying in Stormwind City. It fails and the gatekeepers just come across as jerks, while failing to accomplish much.

All gatekeepers can actually do about these unwashed masses is allow them to occupy a space within the larger space of Argent Dawn, and then carve out their own separate space that they do actually have authority over, like their own communities and guilds, and curate who is able to access that space, so that only the serious, “true” hobbyists get to write with them instead of the amateurish, “lesser” hobbyists.

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That’s fair and I won’t disparage people for enjoying it. I’m not targeting you with this either, however I do see it as silly when apparently one facet of the realm’s headcanon (Duskwood being overrun by an assortment of overpowered vampyr, ferals and other abominations and the equally cringe-powerful Death Knights, Demon Hunters and other antiheroes migrating there as a reaction) gets A-OK’d due to bias or whatever, while others like a skirmish in Loch Modan draws ire from certain groups. It’s a double standard.

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Oh, but thats interesting.
Whoever had a problem with skirmish in Loch Modan of all things?

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I imagine those who think we’ve signed the Azerothian equivalent to the Treaty of Versailles.

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I’ll discuss it in a topic about RP-PvP as I feel like I derailed this one enough already.
I already got DM’d that I’m essentially gatekeeping by treating Duskwood as Argent Dawn’s Lolcow reservation, but I still feel it’s become a grossly offtopic subject.

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Yea okay, well… to the people who complained: Let people enjoy RP-PvP, leave them to enjoy it because they are going to do it regardless.

Duskwood is always going to be a place for your drunk uncle to put on his parrot hat and blue overalls to sing Christmas songs in july - not taking himself too serious.

It is what it is folks, just have fun!

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gee willickers that is an awful lot of words for saying

“abandon all hope ye who enter here”

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I prefer “live and let live” unless you can think of a way of gatekeeping bad roleplayers off of the server.

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may your roleplay be free of vulpera, demon hunter bartenders and northern rpers

A lot of people in this thread concerningly of the belief they do not gatekeep because they curate and its different because it has a somewhat nicer connotation to it. They are both “gatekeeping” in the most functional and practical senses as they both achieve the exact same aim = ignoring or otherwise voiding the existence of people you don’t want to interact with/be in the presence of.

“Passive” Gatekeeping (Curation) is the most commonly used form of gatekeeping, both Online and IRL. It’s “nicer” in the sense that it doesn’t mean you’re aggressively dissuading people from being near you (although this isn’t actually true because it can be just as aggressive as what people have come to think of when they see ‘gatekeeping’).

“Active” Gatekeeping, that being the idea of an aggressive or otherwise hostile reaction to people whose presence you do not want to be in is definitely more unpleasant but they’re both equally “bad” if you see gatekeeping as a bad thing. Which itself is highly dependent person-to-person.

Ultimately, gatekeeping absolutely has its purpose - it just needs to be done in moderation and with some decency. There are plenty of Clubs, Tournaments, hell even D&D groups technically, that employ a level of gatekeeping to ensure:

  1. Everyone present respects the vibe of everyone else around.
  2. There is a level of mutually-agreed “quality” between those partaking/present.

Albeit, I guess curation does let the people curating sleep soundly without calling into question the morality and ethics of the how/why they decided to curate someone away from their existence. But, y’know, beyond that there really is no real difference that matters to the person being “gatekept”.

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I’m sure jabs like these weren’t present, obviously. 0/10 your bait sucks

lmao

gatekeeping is badass!

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