GDKP Free servers

I’m not sure if these runs are on Mograine-Horde, but even if they were I don’t feel like their existence ruins my fun. I geared my 3 chars with either guild or pug SR runs. If there would be GDKP runs I don’t know if I would attend - in TBC gold was harder to obtain so GDKP was imho cool way of getting it, but in WotLK I have more gold than I need and in case of spending gold I’m really careful.
I know the whole “ruins fun” can be translated into “I can’t stand someone’s using GDKP to get real money” - I see it as really grey stuff not ruining any of my enjoyment (I played on Firemaw and Gehennas too) and while it is kinda bad I still think people overreact to this, especially as there are guilds, MS>OS and SR runs as options.

It’s not a grey stuff. RMT (and botting) is against the terms of service. Not that Blizzard cares. If you use GDKP to get real money. Yeah that’s breaking terms.

And this is Honestly the main problem with GDKP. They’re the only real gold sink after certain point and they do lower the value of gold over time as more and more of it enters the circuit. At certain point swiping the card and buying what you need will become the most feasible way especially as more and more on demand items show up. How’s the legendary prices btw?

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I can’t play much so I only raid with my guild.

If my server had a lot of GDKP (thankfully it has none), this would probably impact AH prices drastically, preventing me from getting by money-wise just via dailies and a bit of professions as I commonly do.

Not everyone plays this game for hours each day, you know.

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Gehennas has more gdkps than any other server in EU and the AH prices are insanely low.

Well, it may be, but still doesn’t trigger me at all.

What? I practically only raid log. Stopped doing jc, cooking daily few months ago. I do only daily hc+ for emblems for my 1-2 alts and sell runed orbs and I have more consumables than I need.

And GDKP only lowers prices if so.

That could be because of other reasons too, such as botting.

Why would it?

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Ok, maybe it doesn’t lower, but GDKP doesn’t generate gold on the market, only swaps owners. If players have so much gold it’s because of quests and drops from mobs. So if you can’t afford raiding then maybe there are too few bots/players :stuck_out_tongue:

On the other hand, servers with a lot of GDKPs tend to have stronger bot activity. The more bots are active on the server, the lower are AH prices for materials and ultimately consumables. This reduces your usual weekly costs so, in the end, you don’t need to earn as much as you would have on a GDKP-free server.

Thekal didn’t die because of no GDKP. It died just like every fresh server does because it was 90% of hype followers - I’m not for or against GDKP, but this is just pure nonsense.

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Almost all GDKP are hosted by RMT people.

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This dying game is still breathing on life support only because of gdkps. That’s the only way to escape loot council scam cliques and the popularity of gdkps just shows how people “like” raiding in guilds. It could only be removed if blizzard add forced personal loot but retards will just whine even more

[citation needed]

Either you know or you dont. Maybe naive or a RMT. Your adamant defence of GDKP all the time makes me belive it is the second.

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I’ve been to 3 different GDKPs in TBC, knew the leaders of 2 of them personally. I am fairly certain neither of them sold the couple thousand gold they made per run for real money.

They were some of the most focused, well executed and drama-free runs I’ve ever been to. No silly mistakes, no downtime, no afk leechers on trash. I love some benter in guild raids like the next dad gamer and afk all the time to attend to my kids, but I’d never dare to do that in a GDKP for fear of losing my cut.

I entered Wrath with basically 0 gold, and just levelling, doing daily hc and cooking/fishing/scholazar/sons dailies while I needed them made me 30k gold before Ulduar. (And yes, I have all top enchants/gems and use every consumable on every raid fight) Then I bought all the 232 craftables week 2 for basically all my money, and continued doing daily hc+ and the trial dailies. I am already back to 36k gold just from that. And I pretty much raidlog outside of 45min of dailies.
The money literally generates itself in Wrath. I can easily imagine people makjng 100k or more just doing 25 dailies every day and selling some mats. Anyone who flips consumes on wednesdays and sundays can easily be at cap on multiple characters.
The fact that you are habitually poor, probably IRL as well as in game, just speaks about your lazy personality.

I am no fan of bots and wish Blizzard had some GM to ban them. I also wouldn’t at all mind if they banned gold buyers, for maybe a warning week first and then permanently. I can tell you honestly was on a verge of buying some gold back in Classic Naxx progression when I had to farm DME for 2 separate 8 hour shift just to finance progression mats each week, when 8 hours of work irl would buy me all the gold I’d ever need. But I resisted, we downed KT and then it was more like 3-4 hours of farming per week which I could tolerate.

On the topic, I wish Blizzard would ban evey false reporter on Thekal first for a week and then permanently. And you can repeat your lie about trade channel only all you like, everyone who actually read the rules knows that’s all it is, a self-justifying lie. GDKP is a legit form of loot distribution according to Blizzard, not a sold service, and can be advertised anywhere a SR run can.

GDKP still increases the circulation of gold and creates a further incentive to farm even more gold, and both things induce inflation in prices.

The very fact you have to account for the presence of literal bots to offset the economic effects of GDKP already shows how flawed they are to begin with. I’m glad I don’t have to contend with either where I play.

There is absolutely zero discussion that GDKP is the only reason RMT exists in WoW. There is no reason to have that much gold other than spending it in cancerous GDKPs (don’t start naming raid consumables it’s just laughable).
And it’s sad to see how many people would rather cheat (themselves) rather than playing the game… the comments in this thread alone shows the amount of sadsacks.
But it’s always the same… people create their own misery. Get RMT gold items super fast, or get boosted, then get bored super fast because „there is nothing to do“ and quit the game… endless cycle of poor lost souls in today’s society.
BUT… you don’t need to care about them! If u play in a guild you will never encounter them. Only contact we have with GDKPers is when we mass report them (yes, also on Mograine we have successfully vanquished most of the pesky troll-gamers) :smiley:

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And they will never encounter you, which makes it seem like things are less populated than they are.

Players play in closed circuits, so when the random toxic lone wolf (who spent 2 hours talking about how bad everything is) finds out nobody wants to join his passive aggresive PUG, he calls the server dead.

Better they gather at Gehennes and Firemaw.

So you made a long post about nothing.

I have never joined a GDKP (that was not run by a top guild) that was not run by a RMT seller. usualy from a southern country that is under sanctions so they use VPN (They also supply Russia with drones for use in Ukraine, not the ppl but the nation). But not always, sometimes it is from other countries but every time it is a RMT leader.

Well i do know a lot of ppl that buy gold and never join GDKP. They spend it on gear and yes consumables, but mostly gear upgrades, like throwing 10-15k on a new crafted item each tier week one.