Greetings.
I am a SoD enjoyer and I am here to protest the ban of GDKP.
I thought i should give my 2 cents about the topic.
I am one of many people that enjoy this system and believe it is the best loot system in classic and there are thousands of people who share this view. It’s the only system in which you always win something, items (if your items drop) or gold in the end of each raid.
The tight connection in people’s minds between gold buying and gdkp is problematic to say the least, and it stems from Blizzard’s inability or unwillingness to do something about the botting situation. I never bought gold myself and I never thought I was at a disadvantage when joining gdkps. If botting and gold buying is somehow succesfully managed by blizzard, gdkps will still be the best loot system there is. The only difference in the end will be that the gold numbers will be different, but the corelation between item prices and gold made for people who join them will be the same.
I am in no way shape or form saying that limiting botting and gold buying is an easy task, but throwing the baby with the bathwater is also not a smart sollution. I know so many people who keep playing the game because they enjoy gdkps and when they don’t exist they will grow tired of the game, as it adds so much to the end game aspect. Once you finish your leveling and you get descent gear, i don’t see how people will keep playing without the presence of gdkp. I for an instance will not have an incentive to grind the same raid a hundred times just in case my one missing item drops.
In any case, I will play phase 2 for a bit, but if there are no gdkps at 40, I am sure I am going to play something else after, as are thousands of other people who share the same opinion.
Yes, because value gets added due to people buying gold and spending it in GDKPs.
Bye, and good riddance.
Who cares ?
Yes, because value gets added due to people buying gold and spending it in GDKPs.
This makes no sense. If people have 100 gold they will spend 100. If they have 1000 they will spend 1000. The result is the same.
In the end it is you and others who will care if people lose interest and you end up playing in an empty server. In SoD this will be delayed because of all the new stuff added, but ban gdkps in vanilla classic and watch how this game will die a slow death like other versions of the game.
Anyone else find it amazing how these couple of GDPK’ supporters on the forums all claim the majority of people run gdpkk’s and support them?
Are they this delusional?
Someone tried to convince me to join GDKPs because I told him about me losing a roll on an item and claimed that GDKP would solve all my issues
Because he said the time invested in farming gold gets you free items
Honestly I don’t see the result changing, winning a RNG roll for me seems better odds than having to bid against gold buyers or people that have 10-100x the amount of gold I have
At least in the RNG there is a chance to win VS anyone, how do you ever win from someone that has 100x the gold? Best bet is to spend a little time finding the right group, groups that have players that don’t need the same items as you do and stay away from SR/HR.
Even if GDKP didn’t involve gold buying I still think it’s produces the wrong mindset for playing a video game.
What it boils down to is this right here:
The concept of playing for anything but material gain is so alien to them they can’t imagine anyone else would do it either. This is also one of the many reasons why banning GDKPs is good for the game, and in my own opinion possibly the most important one.
If there is nothing to gain be it logs, Gold or gear… then… there are better things to spend your time in.
Yes i do find it ”Strange” that you choose SoD as your game for ”Pure fun”.
I’d play OW2 Or BG3 if i was not in it for the constant character progression.
Instead of putting yourself in the position of the benevolent, superior altruist, morally impecable being as you do, you should wonder how long you would play if there was no loot incentive. Isn’t getting better items material gain?
Purely subjective but fair enough.
I happen to like the gameplay in WoW. That and as I play in a guild I get to enjoy the content with people I like.
Well what’s stopping you from playing those other games when you get to the point where you no longer feel your character progression is sufficient to satisfy you?
The problem is 99% of people doing GDKP are blatantly buying gold. People like to pretend this isn’t the case but it obvioulsy is.
This in turns creates more bots to farm the gold which means there’s more gold in the economy where it wouldn’t normally exist which inflates the price of everything in the game.
Banning GDKP is just one thing Blizzard can do to combat the bots which in turn will reduce the amount of people buying gold if they no longer have the opportunity to spend it in GDKP.
Ultimately Blizzard needs to invest in actual moderators for the game and stop trying to automate everything because it’s obviously not working.
The max level is 25 so the actual places and zones you can farm in the game is severly limited and they still can’t even manage to moderate those areas. Pathetic really.
If you think playing a game without paying to play is a “position of the benevolent, superior altruist, morally impecable being” then you really need to give your head a wobble.
I believe to sum it up, nothing is wrong with GDKP as a loot-system. What is wrong is EVERYTHING around it.
Think that’s the whole argument, would GDKP even exist without that EVERYTHING around it?
Wow isn’t all about GDKP
You are twisting things and making logical leaps just to say something. The comment was directed towards the person who said you need no material incentive to keep playing the game.
Are you dense? People who participate in RMT have an unfair advantage over those who dont. The Streamer Xaryu made a very fitting example of this: He farmed 30k Gold in WOTLK in order to buy Turning Tide (BIS Caster weapon) in a GDKP. The item drops and then some gold buyin cnt rolls in and just credit cards this sht.
In an ideal world, with no RMT whatsoever, GDKPs would be a good thing, but it´ll never happen since there are always people like you and people who want to buy gold.
You have no proof for your assumption. I know lots of people who join GDKPs and never bought gold. The fact that some people buy gold and join gdkps, resulting on the pots getting bigger doesn’t say anything about gdkps as a loot system. If those people are removed, the gdkps will still continue, and just produce smaller pots. Everything else will be the same.
Well Blizzard is banning GDKP so they can obviously see the data. I’ve heard of the epic staff in on my server going for 800g. Where do you think that amount of gold is coming from.
If Blizzard didn’t think this would combat the botting problem then they wouldn’t be doing it. They’re doing it because GDKPers are buying gold it’s so obvious.
If the pots aren’t worth it people won’t join though
The whole system works because buyers feed leechers, without the leechers you have no people to fill the raids and kill the mobs for the buyers
People that buy gold are effectively paying to have other people play the game for them, without GDKPs there isn’t a way for them to play the game with their card
Like that Blizz is trying this out on SOD just to see the results