Gear matters too much - RETURN WOD GEARING

That’s really asinine. And extremely impractical. It’d end up as a wall of text just to explain the fundamentals of why it’s extremely ignorant, which I’m betting wouldn’t be read due to past experiences so I won’t bother with it. But it’s not good for anyone for it to be like that. It’s just a stupid way to treat a symptom without dealing with the cause, while it causes other problems cuz of the lazy way of treating it. Kinda like the solo ¿qué?-people.

I honestly think gearing is fine.

you have this mindset of if someone has better gear you cannot win, 1400-1600 people are still quite bad.

If you run into an arena game with no real game plan can you honestly expect to win?

my alt was ilvl 201 when he reached 1600 a week ago. Was it a bit rough because of better geared players? sure but they make so many mistakes it can be easy to win.

Now do this to 1800. Only inviting players with max 5 ilvls higher than what you’ve got. Then say how it went. Because that’d be more similar to what some people are forced to deal with for not playing fotm or playing as a healer.

What we dont want is for pvp gear to be so weak ilvl wise that we need to PVE to be relevant.

Nor do we want scaling. Because we just got rid of that and have seen that it doesnt work.

Nothing wrong with Solo que either for that matter.

WoD’s gear system. Problem solved.

¿qué?
Of course you’re one of those people… Do you ever use your brain to think things through? Or is everything just a twitter post to you mr. “4head”.

It’s no different man, you’ll have challenger gear too at that point.

Gear is only an issue 1800-2100

Ah crap i shoulda read the name and checked the profile.

I took the damn bait.

If you’re at 201 ilvl when you reach 1600, you’re obviously bound to lack more than a few conquest items. Now when you get to 1800 in a week doing the same thing with someone who’s max 5 ilvls higher than you, how exactly are you gonna magically become “challenger geared” on more than just a few pieces before then?

Timegating is a thing. People are literally ahead of the gearing curve thanks to the vault, so if you weren’t there from the start then you’re automatically disadvantaged by default.

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There’s your problem. You have 2 options as enhance

enhance + Ret in 2s

Enhance + Warrior + holy pala

You shouldn’t be playing with a healer in 2s. Leave the healers for the monks and warriors

Well my dude, conquest cap for new alts is high. I’m now 208 and 1760 rating, i may have lost a few games to being outgunned but i’m still climbing. Players are still bad below 1800.

they don’t set up kills or cc properly, they run around like headless chickens.

And what have you been playing? Just curious. And what ilvls have your partners had, on average?
I mean surely you must be playing something that needs ilvl to perform properly, since you didn’t even mention the relevance of what you’re playing as when you talked about how gear only matters between 1800-2100.
Because surely you can only really say that when you’ve gone that high with that low ilvl while playing non-fotm and knows what it’s like, right?

Boomkin - ele shaman - holy paladin. me 208, shaman 210, paladin 214

Well yeah, I assume you’ve never experienced 1800-2100 this season?

Why do you keep bringing up FOTM lol, any class and any of their dps/healing specs can reach 1800, even mistweavers and havoc DH

I never said they can’t. I just said some needs more ilvl than others to do it though.

And oh look, you’ve been playing a tanky wizardcleave… Color me surprised.

Try to win a game only using 1 CC each every 45 seconds. Then you’ll see a little more the relevance of ilvl. Not allowed to chain your own CC, you have to chain it with one of the other two if you want a chain.

No convoke either.

Welcome to the world of non-fotm.

Don’t use my CC. Don’t play smart don’t use abilities will show the important of ilvl? you ok bro?

Cant agree more with u, it’s definitely not easy to find people with the same mindset… Good point here

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Not really sure what to say if you don’t see the point yourself.

Not really sure what to say when you blame everything on gear and “not fotm” then yourself.

No, just how inbred you must be when you don’t realise the heavy lifting spammable CC and convoke skills does to alleviate the weight ilvl would otherwise need to lift on its own. Which is what ilvl does for non-fotm that can’t spam CC like you can, and can’t convoke skills their way to a win.

So try to win a game like they have to. See how much ilvl matters then.

hahah you got hostile every fast. it’s ok man, blame the gear.

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Says the tanky wizardcleave player. :roll_eyes: :crazy_face: