Give DH a 3rd spec

[Devilocke-magtheridon]

So DH got nerfed now it feels terrible. But tbh, even as a new player I can see why the playerbase called for this.

The rotation is very simple, especially the tank rotation although mainly I’m talking about pvp here. I think the tank spec needs work on its own but mostly I would love to see a 3rd spec designed for pvp.

People’s main complaint about DH is it gets a lot of payoff for not much work. Every other class has 3 specs and they’ve all had some really interesting reworks recently. Skills being baselined to make them feel more rounded and capable, but now with DH being nerfed it feels like we are left in the dust. I think this is a shame considering SL is trying to bring in new players and DH is one of the most modern feeling classes in wow imo.

Pvp now feels terrible with DH but I don’t just want life leech back to fix this. I notice that so many classes literally have an invulnerability button. They also have roots and slows, stuns, incaps, fears, healing! I feel like I have no return move.

A balanced game should always have counter play, but when you get stunlocked by rogue mage or some classes just throw up invulnerability and kite and slow you into oblivion, I literally run out of buttons to be able to deal with the situation. I don’t have key abilities that other classes seem to have, as I’m often left looking at my keyboard with plenty of time to think and act, but nothing to actually press… I feel DH could have a much better skill based spec.

Rogue has so many different buttons to deal with situations, and is able to execute really quickly because a lot of buttons are off the GCD. I really think with DH being a leather wearing glass cannon style melee that is supposed to feel fast, we should also get a new spec with abilities off the GCD, especially considering the new speed of gameplay and time to kill being reduced. I need to act much quicker and have a better opener because too much is happening to me before I can press anything.

I think Havoc can still serve a purpose as an easier playstyle to help get people into the game, but like subtelty is to assassination, I would really like a proper pvp spec with lots of counter play and abilities that make people accept DH and stop hating it so much in pvp because it will actually be skill based.

PVP with DH feels terrible right now. Please give us a new 3rd spec like every other class, with cool abilities like spell reflect and actually having an answer to abilities thrown at us like slows and stuns and polymorphs and moments of invulnerability! It’s really not fun being a DH in pvp right now…

[Loredrael-chamber-of-aspects (Loredrael)]

Yea, they could make it be stealth, ranged, another tank spec or make one more demonic than the other and still damage

[Devilocke-magtheridon]

I don’t know if stealth, ranged, or a 2nd tank spec was really what I had in mind.

As I mentioned, DH has had an enourmous amount of hate from the community, and as a new player that has chosen to play DH as my main, even despite the nerf (because it really is the most fun class to play imo) it really sucks to have what feels like the entire player base (it’s even caused arguments and stress between me and my close friends who also jump on the DH hate band wagon) sh**ing all over you and having no respect for your class based on its skill level.

Considering this, I feel a pvp focused, higher skill spec is really what’s needed here. Like subtelty for Rogue, or I’ve recently been playing frost mage. They both have a ton of instant casts, abilities off the gcd and a swiss army toolkit of abilites to deal with all kinds of situations. Shadow duel can be used on Paladin while invulnerable to put yourself into shadowy duel on your own for christ sake! It’s essentially another vanish. We could really do with our own spec to compete with this kind of stuff and have the player base respect DH.

We’re the only class in the game that has 2 specs and not 3 so this feels reasonable to ask for. I think a lot of pvp players are drawn to DH as a class as it makes a nice change to stealth rogue which can feel pretty cheap to play, or the other agility melee which doesn’t use weapons and punches stuff, which really isn’t my cup of tea. I need a sword! So DH is really our only choice if you are like myself. Plus the awesome double dashes and glass cannon style with life leech, attacking to stay healed up! It just feels awesome to play for pvp.

Please improve DH I think it’s really important to have this class in a good place as it’s one of wow’s most modern and best feeling classes to play. It’s also the 3rd most played! Please don’t leave DH in this situation… Everyone sh**s on us and it really sucks.