Giveaways and Tournaments

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So is anyone besides me fed up with these US only giveaways and tournaments.

Now we have a 25k HC tournament US only. Previously there were a lot of giveaways for Diablo 4, US only.

I mean I might be wrong and tripping but doesnt EU have more overall players than the US, why are we getting nothing ever. I get its a US company but its not like theyre poor and cant do both. Feels like second hand gamers.

Id like to participate in tournaments and fun events aswell, should i have to buy a second wow account and sub, ontop of 200 ping to do it?

Its literally a Blizzard sponsored tournmanet, they couldve done both, its so cheap.

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What US only HC tournament?

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If I’m reading this right.

Blizzard is sponsoring a US tournament with a prize fund of 25k?

If that’s the case, blizzard has been running numbers for years and probally has a accurate forecast data on how much this tournament layout cost will gain them in resubs, new subs, content views and retention in the US.

They will have the same forcast ability and data from years of running tournaments in the EU.

If the data says it’s likely they will have a gain in the US and a loss in the EU then their only gunna run it in the US.

Also, I’d imagine there are different laws, taxes and costs involved for administrating in the different regions.

You also have 3rd party sponsorship deals to contend with and how they will work.

When you plug all that information into your forecast and come out at a loss for the EU, why would you run it?

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I would think this plays an important role, but don’t care to look into it. It was my imediate thought when reading your post though.

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False
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What a well rounded argument. Go on then Mrs immortal wisdom please enlighten us with the truth.

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U cant possibly come to a conclusion of forecasts without the facts which u do not posses. Quantifying their net + from smthn such as exposure as the major culprite is pretty hard and tbh just guess work, considering this is smthn niche which hasnt been done before.

U could go by general metrics which do not really apply in this case. Considering EU still has que times for HC which im pretty sure NA doesnt, the potential market is bigger, but that doesnt gurantee net profit just as it doesnt do for NA. Not finding organisations to host, is a bad excuse. Taxes and all that is cope, they just dont care thats the reason. Laws for what exactly. Theres no laws prohibiting tournaments in video games, at the very least they dont exist in the EU. I mean u could maybe argue for Taxes, but hows that a major issue for Blizzard, itd be maybe a couple k in taxes for a potential net+ and even then the majority of the tax is paid by the winners living in the EU depending on the country and their tax laws.

Its not complicated to host tournaments for EU or giveaways. The most probable reason is that they dont care, which is pretty lame. CSGO (valve) does this perfectly with tournaments all over the world, why would blizzard have any issue at all explain that to me.

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idc about the giveaways or tournaments but the announcement dates and patch days are sooo annoying like we’re in 2023 it’s not hard to do ww releases at the same time .they don’t even put european date on the title.

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Because like everything else, they dont care, we come second and always will.

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Legal giveaways for Europe might not be as easy as it sounds due to the strict gambling- and lottery laws which also restricts giveaways.

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Yep, get ready for an info dump.

Germany

Giveaways in Germany are governed by the Criminal Code, the Interstate Treaty on
Gambling, and the German Act Against Unfair Competition. The collection of data
usage is limited only to the contest.

France

Until recently, contests in France have been more difficult to run and have seemingly not followed EU guidelines and laws. Recent changes include not needing to include
reimbursement instructions, and not needing to submit rules to a huissier before contest promotion. However, tighter data laws require filing with the CNIL a necessity.

Italy

Giveaways in Italy must be in partnership with the specific social media platform,
although popular platforms such as Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter refuse to be
associated with giveaways. Therefore, Italy requires giveaway hosts to include a
disclaimer stating that the giveaway is not associated with the social media network.
Italian law also requires that collected data must be hosted on an Italian server, which is not possible on social media. The only exception is that the giveaway prize must be
worth less than 1€.

Spain

In Spain, random drawings to determine a winner must be conducted in the country.
Sponsors must pay a gambling tax of 10% of the value of the prize. Terms and
conditions of the giveaway must be in Spanish and available to participants before entry.

Poland

In Poland, all games of chance, including giveaways, are regulated heavily. Every
aspect of the giveaway must take place in Poland. Permits and bank guarantees are
required.

Netherlands

The prize value of giveaways in the Netherlands must not exceed €100,000 per year.
There is a maximum of one game of chance per organization a year, with a maximum of 20 drawings per game of chance.

And that’s only a selection. Organising competitions and giveaways in Europe is an absolute minefield.

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