Gosh, this made me love the void elves more

Lore Story
1
When I read this in-game, it made me just love the void elves even more, especially the bolded parts he says.

Magister Umbric
As a magister, my duty has always been to Silvermoon and its people. When the mad Arthas devasted our lands, I knew we must harness every power available to ensure our survival.

Prince Kael'thas proposed one way. I sought out another.

Me: So you sought the power of shadow?
Umbric:
My followers and I felt no loyalty to the horde. When Grand Magister rommath forbade our Void research, we did not hesitate to break away and follow our own path.

But hubris got the best of me. I was certain I could master any force we encountered.

I was so wrong...

Me:The Void nearly claimed you
Umbric:
I led us right into the ethereal's trap. If not for Alleria windrunner's intervention, we would have been lost.

As it was, the shadow energies transformed us... and opened our minds to the whispers of the Void. Without Alleria's guidance, we would have fallen into madness.

She has helped us quiet our minds. Dampen the whispers. It is a constant struggle.

Me: Now you fight for the Alliance
Umbric:
We do not stand with the Alliance out of convenience. Nor is it a mere gesture of thanks to Alleria.

Our ordeal has taught us the importance of great powers being in the right hands. We could not allow the Horde to know the things we know, or to use as a weapon in their schemes.

We fight for the Alliance because we believe in its values. And one day, I pray we will bring all of Silvermoon back into the fold[/i]


Love it !! Go go Magister Umbric.

It would be so cool, if blizzard forged a strong relationship between the void elves and the night elves - especially the priest, demon hunters and mage groups within the night elves. The priests can relate via the shadow/void thing, the demon hunters via the pursuit to master every magic at their disposal and the constant struggle against the whispers while perservering through it, the arcnae wielders who wield and understand great power can be used for good.

It works with thsoe parts of the night elves because like the Farondis/Shen'dralar and current arcane night elves who survived the sundering and have joined us in the fighting, everyone of them have learnt the folly of hubris. This is what makes them ideologically fit.

We have yet to explore the shadowy side of the night elves too, afterall, they're described as "shadowy" beings, and WotA does mention a section of the priesthood using shadow/void magic (not evil) , and it appears there is a link to the dark side of the moon.

--EDIT ADD -09/11/18--
Gosh, I'm loving this guy even more, just saw this convo between Shandris and Umbric:

Hinting more at night elf/void elf relationship? especially after blizzard is revealing the void shadow powers the night elves have always had in the night warrior scene. This has some promise.

Shandris Feathermoon says: The amount of guards in this port is astounding. They must be preparing to move out the fleet.
Magister Umbric says: My people and I will not allow the Alliance to be destroyed by these monstrous trolls. You have my word.
Shandris Feathermoon says: You sound like you've had experience with the Zandalari in the past.
Magister Umbric says: You and I have both lived long lives, Shandris. I know many who have been affected by the Zandalari's barbarism.
Shandris Feathermoon says: And you do not seem hesitant to use your Void powers against them.
Magister Umbric says: The Void can be used to protect, as long as you do not succumb to its power.
Shandris Feathermoon says: Used to protect? Interesting, Umbric.
Magister Umbric says: You sound surprised. Did you imagine my people simply used void magic as if it were a toy?
Shandris Feathermoon says: Like you said, Umbric, I have lived a long life. I have seen power corrupt the most noble of races... restraint has been uncommon.
Magister Umbric says: My people will not make the same mistake when using the Void, I promise.


I really like that the void elves are not like when the night elves went all reckless with arcane magic, or when the void elves went all reckless with fel magic nor the same as the demon hunters whose experience with fel was one of sacrifice.

Whiles the night elves do get redeemed, especially the arcane wielding shen'dralar and nightborne from addiction and recklessness, as do the blood elves, its nice to see that this experience with dark power is different, and the dark power is not quite what we thought it was.

I mean, when you think about it, what's the difference between death, fel and void? there has to be differences, I use to think void was just another "evil" power, but with night elves using it in the order of Elune from way back and not being evil, and Tyrande been shown wielding that aspect quite well, not to mention the netherlight temple shadow priests not being evil, it would appear wielding void, even deeply doesn't necessarily corrupt, i like that.

For all those who are wishing the void elves to go evil and insane and be the alliance's "grey" scapegoat - i'm so so glad blizz isn't taking them down this line.. i'm so freaking tired of everything cool geting corrupt and evil and having to take it down, it's nice to see another group outside demon hunters actually succeed in mastering this !@#$.

  • Love that highborne and nightborne elves have mastered the arcane free from addiction
  • Love that demon hunters can wield fel holding onto their souls and do so for good not evil.
  • Love now that the void elves are able to do the same with void, and we are seeing an aspect of elves and the void that doesn't necessarily dominate and control its user.
4 Likes
2
20/10/2018 05:34Posted by Sariel
We have yet to explore the shadowy side of the night elves too, afterall, they're described as "shadowy" beings, and WotA does mention a section of the priesthood using shadow/void magic (not evil) , and it appears there is a link to the dark side of the moon.


Imo, that would be far more exciting than Undead Night Elves following Sylvanas or being part of the Forsaken. We already have Night Elf DKs.

20/10/2018 05:34Posted by Sariel
if blizzard forged a strong relationship between the void elves and the night elves - especially the priest, demon hunters and mage groups within the night elves.


Thus, counter-balancing the BE/NB allegiance.
3
The Alliance has historically loathed the Shadow in all its forms, the Night Elves foremost are worshippers of Elune and have a hatred for the void and even arcane.

Void Elves are intentionally the black sheep of the Alliance (somewhat). You will not see Night Elves bonding closely with elves who practice Fel, Void or Arcane magic.
4
20/10/2018 07:26Posted by Pullo
You will not see Night Elves bonding closely with elves who practice Fel, Void or Arcane magic.


Well, they did accepted NE mages back. Maiev and her soldiers are killed bunch of them though
5
20/10/2018 07:26Posted by Pullo
Void Elves are intentionally the black sheep of the Alliance (somewhat). You will not see Night Elves bonding closely with elves who practice Fel, Void or Arcane magic.


Fel? I thought that was Kael'thas, Rommath and Sunfury business

Arcane? Well, Edgyjojomeme answered that one

Void? Shadowmeald and (quoting Pink Floyd :) "the dark side of the moon" would, at least, not stand too much in opposition to one another. Well, just my humble Goblin opinion^^
6
Well congrats I guess. Funny that he takes another user of an evil source of power as inspiration. Not like it backfired or something right?
7
20/10/2018 07:26Posted by Pullo
The Alliance has historically loathed the Shadow in all its forms, the Night Elves foremost are worshippers of Elune and have a hatred for the void and even arcane.

Void Elves are intentionally the black sheep of the Alliance (somewhat). You will not see Night Elves bonding closely with elves who practice Fel, Void or Arcane magic.


As far as I know the night elves have never hated the arcane. Hated abusive and reckless users of the arcane, but never the arcane itself.. it made them, and even when the long vigil group (not all night elves) felt they had to ban its use after the sundering, they still were surrounded and suffused by the arcane magic of the Well of Eternity they used in moonwells ALL over their lands, boosting them thoroughly.

When they joined the alliance, they never hated on mages, or arcane wielders, notice how even those that hated the highborne after the demons are called by them in war of the ancients, also work with them. And notice how when the ban on arcane magic usage is lifted and that on the highborne is lifted in cataclysm, the post-vigil alliance group (not all night elves) are not angry at them because they hate the arcane, they are angry with the shen'dralar for leaving it sooo late to play any role in the war of the ancients. - and lest we forget, they forgive them, with cataclysm showing many night elves coming to study under them.

As for the void. Night elves hate evil and corruption ofc, they are not fans of the void lords, but remember the void elves aren't friends with dark whispers of evil beings either. It's like the demon hunters who don't love fel, they use it and allow themselves to suffer the pain and corruption it inflicts on their bodies and the struggle in they must endure to keep their souls free from evil so they can fight fire with with fire. I don't think it was till legion that the night elves were finally convinced that demon hunters weren't evil.

It is not even as extreme with the void, especially if those parts of War of the ancients is to be believed, night elves using void magic in their priesthood.

Finally, the preist order hall campaign shows you can definitely use void magic without being evil. So do you think night elven priests are going to hate all the priests that use void magic in the order hall?

Think man. Question everything, find truths in everything.
8
20/10/2018 11:04Posted by Erevien
Well congrats I guess. Funny that he takes another user of an evil source of power as inspiration. Not like it backfired or something right?

He did, and he has the humility to accept that his hubris got the better of him, and he got rescued, and has now learned how to manage this power.

They fit nicely on the allinace because of this. Notice how alliance highborne like the Farondis, shen'dralar are similarly humbled, so too are Thalyssra and the nightborne rebels, which is why many of us think that part of the nightborne should be on the alliance, they all undergo a similar moral values change that learns lessons of humility and accepts balance and control over reckless use of magic.

What now remains is for us to see Thalyssra's character u-turn to fit the horde, she can't remain anymore as a very alliancey type character she was in 7.0/1, nor should her nightborne group, if they are going to stay in the horde they need to be written to fit.
9
She can totally be her normal self without being out of character. The sin'dorei are their connection to the horde and so far, none of the nightborne have shown to be reckless so ve bfa started.
10
20/10/2018 11:18Posted by Erevien
She can totally be her normal self without being out of character. The sin'dorei are their connection to the horde and so far, none of the nightborne have shown to be reckless so ve bfa started.

Yeah, she could, true, but I like that Umbric was written to have a change from certain blood elf traits and now reflect the values of the alliance, it fits better.

Thalyssra while she could stay as she is, I think will fit better and reconciled to the horde if her values change too to fit. Because of her quests in Legion, she still feels more alliance, like the arcane version of Tyrande, it would fit better if her lot amongst the nightborne either came over to the kaldorei or she was written change her views a bit so she can engage more along the flow of the horde.

Whiles this is no award winning novel, it doesnt mean it shouldn't be the best quality it can be, but since we have to wait for things, let us give a chance for some of the less meaningful things to have all their parts written.
11
Void elves are there to provide a counter to the Blood Elves. In the same way the Nightborne are to the Night Elves. Hence why no High Elves as it would upset this balance. It's the aspect of shadow (Nelves)/ void (Velves) vs Arcane (NBelves) / light (Belves) being represent in the four races . I love void Elves and I think it's going to be really interesting to see the conflict between the factions and how they are represented. To those who say it's an asspull well you obviously aren't looking at the bigger picture here.
12
From a technical standpoint -
What you quoted is essentially the reason Umbric and his kind should never again be allowed near Silvermoon or it's lands. The Void elves are an abomination that goes against the very essence of what it means to be a blood elf, their ideals spit in the face of blood elves and their sacrifices, because if you go as far as surrender your mind to the Void and become a ticking time bomb that could wipe out everything on Azeroth....you are truly lost, there is simply no hope for such an individual.

Lore and gameplay standpoint -
It's quite interesting, the characteristics of Umbric and his determination. The Void elves feel cool to play regardless.
13
20/10/2018 15:15Posted by Zaigar
The Void elves are an abomination that goes against the very essence of what it means to be a blood elf


Betraying your allies every other year? Void elves manage to keep the essence of what it's to be an elf spectacularly, don't worry.
14
20/10/2018 15:15Posted by Zaigar
The Void elves are an abomination that goes against the very essence of what it means to be a blood elf, their ideals spit in the face of blood elves and their sacrifices,


You mean becoming a slave to a certain type of power? Because the BEs are really good at that. Either the Void, or the Sunwell, or the Legion, they know how to bend the knee. Only difference is now some are bending the knee to an undead elf, who's pretty much Scourge 2.0, while the others are bending the knee to the High King and his wisdom.
15
20/10/2018 15:23Posted by Northgrave
20/10/2018 15:15Posted by Zaigar
The Void elves are an abomination that goes against the very essence of what it means to be a blood elf


Betraying your allies every other year? Void elves manage to keep the essence of what it's to be an elf spectacularly, don't worry.


Blood Elves (At least the faction of them that is currently part of the Horde) have never betrayed their allies.
16
20/10/2018 15:33Posted by Aeula
Blood Elves (At least the faction of them that is currently part of the Horde) have never betrayed their allies.

Yeah, their leader just plotted together with Varian, ready to throw them all under the bus. Guess he's not a part of the Horde group or something.
17
Getting Umbric > Lor'thermar flashbacks now lol.
18
20/10/2018 15:50Posted by Northgrave
20/10/2018 15:33Posted by Aeula
Blood Elves (At least the faction of them that is currently part of the Horde) have never betrayed their allies.

Yeah, their leader just plotted together with Varian, ready to throw them all under the bus. Guess he's not a part of the Horde group or something.


That was because Garrosh was sending them on suicide missions. They were being betrayed, Lor'themar started looking for other options.

He realised dealing with the Alliance was a mistake and never went through with it.
19
Umbric and his people could make for useful tools. So long as they are sane, we will keep them on our side. And when we won't need them anymore, or they go insane, we'll dump them.

Which brings me to my next point. We should kick the Void Elf garbage out of Stormwind. What would happen if one of them suddenly gave into the whispers? How many innocents would die? The Kingdom would suffer. That CANNOT happen.

We should just send all those Void Elves to the faraway wasteland where they belong. Stormwind will NEVER be their home.
20
20/10/2018 16:24Posted by Arctur
We should just send all those Void Elves to the faraway wasteland where they belong. Stormwind will NEVER be their home.


Weren't you Kul Tiran two days ago?