Strange, I thought the first hit would be a complaint about convoke.
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And the award for the worst comparison ever goes to…
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I know that extra steps sounds different to you but , ill wrinkle your brain a bit.
They both took buying power from you, they both added a coin that adds nothing(takes away) for no reason for an average customer, they both know that you won’t ask the important question.
‘‘See blizzard balance limitations here’’ Must be hard to display before you buy!
I guess people judge because I assumed that I would get the same buying power as if I purchase with my card i guess no one here understand how counter intuitive it is. It would be the same as buying a mount and getting game time you go to their page and there is a 4 page term of service saying that actually all mounts are game time in disguise.
That makes no sense?! well but if you looked first before you buy it you could know you just didn’t ask the question…
So although it would be stupid they could technically do this.
Pretty common knowledge that subscriptions cannot be bought with non-money balance. If you didn’t know, you do now and will not make the same mistake in the future.
Ermm…most people?
I mean you get paid into a bank account, that bank account is likely (Though not always) to be the account that you then pay subscriptions from, by virtue of the fact that it is the one likely to have money in it…
Simple answer to that is
“No”.
You may indeed be suffering in some manner. It is always explicitly stated what you are paying for when you make a card transaction. I’d be flippant and say “It’s like a legal requirement or something” but in this case, it is just “It’s a legal requirement”
Do you want serious advice on that matter, as I did work in Fraud Investigation for more than ten years. Basically no they can’t, unless you are very foolish and make your passwords and PIN numbers known. They just can’t. For a start there are numerous security measures in place, automatically. Any irregular spending will automatically be flagged, and your bank will contact you to confirm that it was you making the spending. Non-Pattern spending will also be noted and flagged, like if I bought ten works of art, or some gems today, my bank would contact me and go “Was that actually you?” and if it was not, there is a facility called a ‘Clawback’, which is kind of what it sounds like. “Nope, My money Fraudster, give me it the hell back!”
So really, you’re pretty safe as long as you follow standard identity theft protection, and even if you don’t, there is a recourse if you fall victim to it.
I’d be interested to know what Swiss Bank this is as…actually, no, they do use cards now. Yeah, that is no bank on earth, so unless someone is being paid cash in hand…
That is essentially what a Debit Card is. As long as you’re not tapping your Overdraft if you have one, you are only spending money that you actually have, and no one can ask you for later.
This is why, as someone who has worked in Finance for decades, I will never get a Credit Card ever. I have seen how people can rinse them and get themselves into lifelong debt.
Debit Cards all the way. “Can I afford the thing? Maybe, if I still have my job next month, which is an uncertainty, and if I don’t have some emergency payment I was not expecting? Is that a problem? Oh, it -is- a problem, because that wasn’t actually my money…damn, why did no one explain this to me except in the long document where it explained it to me that I signed…”
Or “Do I have the cash to do the thing?”
“Yes”
“I do the thing.”
“Do I have the cash to do the thing?”
“No”
“I don’t do the thing then, maybe next month”.
Your perception as to how finance works may be a little bit skewed…
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You can, however, chargeback. You didn’t actually buy anything, nor could you.
Alternatively, open a ticket and ask for some special treatment, they might be nice with you. Emphasis on might. And everyone will deny it happens. Including you.
What I’d likely do is steam about it for a few days then buy 2 months.
… Which I guess you did, given you just posted.
Generally I wouldn’t recommend a 6 month sub anyway. You’ll burn out. Of course the price of 6 months includes some breaks. Yet, why pay ahead, you lose out on interest, and lower your liquidity. Considering typical western person swimming in debt, might even sound sensible.
Play a bit, take a break, rinse and repeat.
Sure, if you want the attached mount, the 6 month deal starts being lucrative, with about 3.5 months worth of playtime used.
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What a turtle
He is kinda right though with the example.
For random person there isn’t much difference between subscription and game time. It’s both game time, except you stash game time, while subscription renews, plus you may want to pause it anyway all the time, just in case you get sick or what have you.
Basically OP says that it’s just a stupid situation, which it is.
In fact, the game token costs 20€, so it’s even more expensive. There is no need to make it funny. And Blizzard reports MAUs anyway.
Makes no sense at all. You want fruit delivered every day and even after your money you left them runs out, you still want it. That’s the blizzard balance way.
If they have your debit card details the deliveries won’t stop and you will get your fruit every day.
But you think they will use your debit card details to empty your account, in fact you probably think everyone who has your card details will. I could guess where you are from but that would be racial (or nationality) profiling.
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They just have to walk behind you with a certain device and hold it briefly to your pocket if your card and wallet is in there. No need for any passwords or pin.
It doesn’t make sense, no, but it is what it is at the end of the day. Look on the bright side, at least now you know and won’t fall for it again.
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you literally have to type in three words in google. “wow battlenet balance”. its the first link. not convoluted at all.
edit: even if you were able to buy it with your balance, it clearly states that you need a 6 month subscription and not game time so you wouldnt have gotten it anyways.
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you’re assuming that when i first did it i was aware that there would be a difference.
For steam for example the only reason you keep your money in steam credits is because you can skip the authentication so when you feel buying a game you just literally press 2 buttons, it’s fast, easy and convenient. This is adding something my card can’t do!
Blizzard with blizzard balance just takes away ability to buy stuff from the shop?!
Apparently people here find it normal, i think is just idiotic and makes no sense but i guess im in the wrong?
I guess is normal and common at this point i just enjoy 2 months
That’s what Blizzard balance is like too, tell me as I don’t know, can you use steam balance to buy a subscription and not just game time?
Reason 101 why my wallet has a built in RFID blocker. None of my cards can be read from my wallet. A lot of manufacturers are doing them as standard now.
No, the opposite, it ALLOWS you buy stuff from the SHOP… but you cant set up a subscription with it… which is not a product you BUY from the SHOP.
I’m going to step out now because it’s all semantics here. No company accepts subscription payments that are not recognized banking/payment industries and battle.net balance is neither of those.
On the subject of security of your card details you provide to blizzard… Subscriptions are taken from cards/banks via a “Token” that is set up when you add your card, they dont actually even present your card details to the bank each time when your sub is due… they present the token… which is a specific code that represents your card and the retailer presenting it, it cant be used anywhere else by any other person or retailer… for security reasons. The token will work only with Blizzard and your bank for your account only… its that specific. By all means google Payments by Tokenisation for more information. Even though I work for a fortune 500 Payments company it is just too involved for me to type, but it is extremely secure on subscription methods.
/StepsOut
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Is different because steam just hosts people games so if you had a game steam would just tell you to have a website dedicated to subs so we can link to, with the condition that all your gamers would be attached to steam if they use steam to subscribe.
Blizzard is the owner so is different.
I will pretend you did not said this just to defend this company.
You know very well that all it takes it’s just a specific warning before buying.
Reading the terms of use for subscriptions and/or Blizzard balance would have given you the information, rather than assuming, it’s something you should have done. Since you know it’s different that should have been a clue too.
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well, yes, of course i would assume people read it. why wouldnt i? how else would they know what the terms and conditions are to get it? if you only assume things work a certain way and then complain afterwards that it didnt work out then…yeah…thats not exactly clever.
doesnt matter how things are handled on other platformes. steam is not battlenet/blizzard, so its irrelevant to assume just because it works on one store it has to on the other.
blizzard balance is not the same as paying directly for stuff. so they dont take away the ability of buying stuff from the shop but simply putting limitations on it. it says:
"Using Battle.net Balance
You can use Battle.net Balance to purchase most products and services in the Battle.net Shop."
Limitations
Battle.net Balance cannot be…
- converted into cash
- transferred to another account
- combined with another payment method to make a purchase
used for World of Warcraft subscriptions but can be used for Game Time - used in:
- Blizzard Gear Store
- PlayStation Store
- Xbox Marketplace
- Nintendo Store
infact, i find it rather shocking when people just buy stuff without informing themselves beforehand merely assuming it works a certain way and someone will surely clean after their messes when it doesnt work out.
you cant claim blizzard “jebaited” you if you havent informed yourself about it to begin with.
i cant enter a legal contract with x, not reading the contract, assuming it will work like with contract y and then throw a fit if its not anything like i imagined it to be.
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