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Wouldnât bother with this one. Ruined the last tier for me. Not supportive and willing to sacrifice long time members instead of taking that little bit longer to get AOTC with the team.
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Good evening
Nowhere did I say I was perfect or was kicked from the guild. In the post makes it sound like you give people opportunities and youâre a tight knit team, let people grow etc. I felt strongly enough to reply.
Youâre correct. I joined the guild as I wanted to heroic raid. Last tier you pushed us to get AOTC as fast as possible so we could go mythic. When clearly there was no rush as we are now in November and can still get it. You didnât ask if that was what people wanted. You sacrificed people and made them step down from positions they were enjoying as YOU felt we were not progressing fast enough. As discussed at the time I have a skill cap and pushing that hard early tier wasnât what I signed up for. I wasnât the only one in that boat.
As you know you cannot control other people. I didnât vouch for said person or recommend him. He applied and you accepted. And at no point did I ever call anyone names or cast dispersions on someoneâs character as you have just tried to do with me by linking his behaviour to me.
But since you want to be so open - Potential applicants - if you are thinking about joining this guild, do some digging and please check out the original now disbanded guild by the same name on the same server and ask why it was reformed, why a whole lot of people were left in limbo by a guild leader that rage quit one morning.
From memory that whole issue was caused by the push to mythic raiding and filling the roster to make a 20 man team that introduced many issues. By the looks of the post, history is repeating itself.
Youâre correct it does bother me. For close to 18 months I had fun with everyone and there are some really good people within the guild. Itâs a shame it ended due to the guild leaderâs unilateral decision to push mythic and drop anyone who didnât play the way he wants them to.
I have not blocked anyone on discord or bnet. I simply decided to clear out.
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Im not sure there is anything to be gained by speaking privately. Your initial response to this pointing out my many mistakes and taring me with the same brush as someone who not once did I share the same abhorrent views as, makes me feel there is no benefit. I was never once personal or insulted anyone.
Your correct people can make their own minds up after reading this. I wish those that raid with you good luck - they will need it.
To the other ex guild mates that are reading this - I hope youâre all well and enjoy whatever 10.2 brings.
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Nice to hear from you.
I do not believe I said I wasnât given a chance. My skill level isnât that of a mythic raider and that was never my interest.
My main point in the post was that the family nature of the original post does not sit well and that the GM is willing to sacrifice long time members in the name of an aim that wasnât stated at the start of the tier. We had just recovered from the âpurgeâ and I thought as a guild we were quite tight, especially as the aim to mythic raid caused the purge in the first place. Just because the last raid was deemed easy by some guilds does not mean that we needed to rush it to keep up.
When i joined the guild it was explicitly stated it was AOTC. That fit with how i wanted to raid and what i was comfortable with. If the direction of the guild at the time was made clear before the tier started then I would have stepped back before the start, or if I didnât and wasnât up-to the cut then fair play. To sacrifice people mid tier because its âeasy and we should be clearing it fasterâ does not seem fair to me.
I do not think any of what happened was personal, or directed explicitly at me. I was open an honest in these posts and at the time that i have a skill cap and I do not have the time or motivation to skill up to be a mythic prog raider mid tier. What is disappointing to me is the way in which it was done. Effectively being dropped and told if I wanted to continue healing it would be with another team. Not exactly easy 3/4 weeks into a new season.
Perhaps me leaving unannounced wasnât the best way. I felt i was put in the awkward position of being declared not good enough in a small guild where everyone would know. It isnât like a larger guild where there are multiple teams or a strong social/M+ scene.
The offer of DPS was there but that would require gearing up another spec/alt and not something I was expecting to have to do or had the time to do. This goes back to my original post - it ruined the tier for me.
What I do take issue with is the first response of the GM trying to drag my name through the mud. But that is his issue, as I said the rest of the guild were a good bunch, Yourself included.
Edit - Sadly, the original posts by the GM have been deleted and it looks like I am conversing with myself. Hopefully these public posts will provoke discussion to avoid a repeat of what happened to me.
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I deleted my previous posts as I felt they werenât adding constructively to the discussion. Iâve attempted to reach out to you privately but you have rejected this gesture.
Weâve grown as a guild, moved forward, and Iâm proud of the work weâve accomplished. Iâm sorry that youâre no longer part of that journey.
We will continue to learn from the past and ensure we donât repeat our mistakes. Yes, not everything always goes the way we want, and sometimes things go wrong. Nobodyâs perfect! I am immensely proud of our guild and the people in it.
Thanks for taking the time to share your thoughts and feelings, and I truly hope you find success in the future.
After your initial approach you can hardly blame me for not wanting to speak privately. It was hurtful to see that response.
I do hope you have learnt from the past and donât repeat the same mistakes - for the sake of the other guild members.
Love how Burgi said some players were left in a limbo after that drama at the end of last year. I was one of those players. Canât remember the last time I got so f-ed in WoW. I tried reaching out and was ignored, no response. I never had any drama with any of the members. Guess some things never change. Hope youâre doing ok, AlexâŚ
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The guild âNothing Specialâ sounds like itâs became âVery Special and Entitledâ.
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