Guys, correct me if I'm wrong - is boosting for gold prohibited now?

Did I understand it correctly?

no, boosting communities are. up to blizzard to clarify what constitutes as a boosting community though

Not against guilds, but against communtites. Actually its a good news.

This policy update does not restrict individuals or guilds from using the provided in-game tools (“trade channel” chat) to buy or sell in-game items or activities for in-game currency. However, “boosting communities”, especially those who operate across multiple realms, are no longer permitted.

You can advertise yourself.

You are not allowed to advertise with multiple accounts cross server like houkan/nova/oblivion/dawn do.

Would find it hilarious if they’ve just added the names of the most popular boosting communities to a blacklist where when you report them the account gets auto suspended.

Here’s to hoping that we finally see a socially engaging trade chat again.

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They’ll ban anyone advertising organizations, including those advertising boosting communities operating in bnet groups. They’re still allowing individual players to advertise for themselves or their guilds, so basically any organization just needs to keep using that loophole of “add me on discord” or “wisp for more information” where they take the conversation to discord, and et voilà they’ll be in no violation of this new rule, technically speaking.

Only way they can get busted if they keep moving conversations to discord, is if Blizzard does undercover work. Which, as far as I know, they don’t pay the 2 guys in the office to do. :clown_face:

I’ve read it in French and it says that any kind of form of boosting and any kind of paying service (gold/money/flowers etc
) is bannable.
Also you can’t ruin your mmr to farm glad wins at 1k6 anymore as well.

I guess you can still boost but only for free.

Nice change imo

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Except that loophole is now considerably smaller due to the fact trade chat won’t (shouldn’t) be flooded by advertisements from communities. The advertisement will have to be done through LFG, where it is way more problematic for these communities as you can’t list in LFG for max level raids on a none max level character. So, all these people they ‘hire’ to spam trade chat all day are futile.

Except this new policy change doesn’t automatically mean those accounts will disappear immediately. It’ll just mean Blizzard has clarified there’s a reason for you to report them and a reason for Blizzard to take action now.

It doesn’t mean they’ll be able to sweep away those advertisers, if Blizzard needs to do it manually. If they rely only on people triggering the automated function of the report system, then it’ll rely on actually having enough players logged in and reporting them on each realm.

This is the arena forum. What’s annoying for people here are those advertisers in the LFG, not the trade chat.

Advertisers in LFG are not annoying for me, though. Takes 2 seconds to report an LFG advertiser and you don’t see them again. You really think this change has been made with arena lfg advertisers in mind? Please. It’s directed towards the trade chat which is flooded with ><<<<<< WTS XCJAIKDAKDAIKDAKD all day every single day.

Have you tried talking to these arena advertisers who say ‘add me on discord’ and then they end up boosting you through a community? I wouldn’t know, so I would like to be enlightened. After all, the policy update is about COMMUNITIES, I have NEVER seen a community explicitly advertised in the LFG arena section.

Really? They’ve changed it? I haven’t exactly been using LFG in quite a while now. When I used to do it and report them and so on, they’d just pop right back up with a refresh of the list.

Are you intentionally acting obtuse right now? Why else do you think they take the conversations to discord? It’s obviously to mention things they don’t want recorded on Blizzard’s chat servers. Is that so hard to comprehend?

Uhm, not exactly. It’s about organizations and then they included communities to count as an organization.

Because arena advertisers aren’t allowed to explicitly say ‘helping/boosting FOR gold etc’ in game. I listed ONE lfg group a couple months ago saying ‘helping in 2s for gold’ and got banned for a week for ‘disruptive gameplay’.

These WoW communities and organisations are literally synonymous with each other. ‘N*va b**sting community’ is still an organisation, as well as a community. This is what the policy update is directly aimed at. Feel free to log on to Tarren Mill right now and read the trade chat.

Ironic. Isn’t fully informed on a topic and unironically trying to argue with someone who is:

Using and looking at are two different things. Not that it has any relevance with what I’ve said though. And I actually remembered what you mentioned, with the “disappearing from the list”-bit. Yes, they remove them from the list if you report them, even after a refresh they’re still gone. However, there’s a timer on that function to hide them. After a while, refresh again and there they are once more. It’s like a magic! (If you don’t get the reference, then you’re no fun.)

You didn’t know that it was changed that you can’t explicitly mention you are boosting for gold in LFG anymore, that’s why they say ‘add me on Discord for more info’. Those players are essentially ‘free agents’ because of the split that the communities take from you. (I know this because my friends do it and have given this exact reasoning). I mean, if you can prove to me that you’ve spoken to one of those Arena advertisers in LFG who actually boosted for x community, then I will hold my hand up :slight_smile:

Communities such as Nva were never/rarely stated in the LFG arena tool, they were always mentioned in trade chat. <Nva WTS SoD 0 -2100 m+15’ all day every single day. Therefore, it is easier for customers to get their services just from looking in trade chat rather than navigating through LFG and having to add somebody on Discord. So, the policy updates prohibits these communities which are ALSO organisations.

somebody with 4.5k posts on an alt character has no say on what is and what isn’t fun :sweat_smile:

How long is this timer? I have reported so many advertisements and have not seen them appear again.

Don’t remember. That’s why I was vague about it. But I’m a very stubborn person, so I’ve spent literally hours browsing the LFG list when I was actively playing for rating. Sit long enough and keep refreshing after you’ve reported someone and you’ll see the timer for yourself. (They aren’t exactly memories you WANT to remember, I hope you can at least understand that much.)

Never have, never will. But those people asking people to add them on discord in LFG, have been around for longer than since boosting for gold became popularized. Admittedly there were fewer of them back then, but they were still around.

I think it’s still gonna be problematic to operate a boosting-com because it’s pretty obvious, since these people are moving tens and hundreds of millions of gold across realms each month. It wouldn’t even require any ressources to track them down, a bot would be able to identify any of these operations.

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They’ve already got a program keeping track of gold flow, to mark suspicious movements. Except it’s not so great, there are organizations (particularly the gold-selling websites) with ways to “fly under the radar” for such things, to avoid the automated punishments. And Blizzard isn’t the greatest at doing it manually, as Classic and TBC Classic should’ve demonstrated to you. (Sure, was a banwave in the autumn last year that targeted people buying gold in TBC Classic iirc, but one or two banwaves with years of gold-buying that it even became part of the norm in Classic (and TBC) doesn’t exactly help much.)

Sure, to a normal human suspicious movements aren’t that hard to spot. But when they rely on software to flag such events, these organizations starts dodging the parameters. For example, instead of sending one big bulk of gold all at once, they can send a little bit at a time. The program starts marking total sums of money at week’s end that was transferred via mail, the organizations can start sending gold with random items and some text to say something to give context for the gold, and so on.

There’s a constant push-and-pull between Blizzard’s anti-cheat efforts and the organizations’ efforts to dodge them. Blizzard hasn’t exactly been paying people to do it manually that much, so this is what you get.
Also, they still allow boosting for gold as you can see, as they always have, and these events naturally leads to a lot of gold trading hands between characters, which naturally gets swept up in the flag software. So they have to sift through all the legit boosters, and separate them from the illegitimate. Which, as history should’ve shown you, is something they tend to leave the punishments for banwaves, which doesn’t occur that often and doesn’t catch every single offender.

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