Did I understand it correctly?
no, boosting communities are. up to blizzard to clarify what constitutes as a boosting community though
Not against guilds, but against communtites. Actually its a good news.
This policy update does not restrict individuals or guilds from using the provided in-game tools (âtrade channelâ chat) to buy or sell in-game items or activities for in-game currency. However, âboosting communitiesâ, especially those who operate across multiple realms, are no longer permitted.
You can advertise yourself.
You are not allowed to advertise with multiple accounts cross server like houkan/nova/oblivion/dawn do.
Would find it hilarious if theyâve just added the names of the most popular boosting communities to a blacklist where when you report them the account gets auto suspended.
Hereâs to hoping that we finally see a socially engaging trade chat again.
Theyâll ban anyone advertising organizations, including those advertising boosting communities operating in bnet groups. Theyâre still allowing individual players to advertise for themselves or their guilds, so basically any organization just needs to keep using that loophole of âadd me on discordâ or âwisp for more informationâ where they take the conversation to discord, and et voilĂ theyâll be in no violation of this new rule, technically speaking.
Only way they can get busted if they keep moving conversations to discord, is if Blizzard does undercover work. Which, as far as I know, they donât pay the 2 guys in the office to do.
Iâve read it in French and it says that any kind of form of boosting and any kind of paying service (gold/money/flowers etcâŠ) is bannable.
Also you canât ruin your mmr to farm glad wins at 1k6 anymore as well.
I guess you can still boost but only for free.
Nice change imo
Except that loophole is now considerably smaller due to the fact trade chat wonât (shouldnât) be flooded by advertisements from communities. The advertisement will have to be done through LFG, where it is way more problematic for these communities as you canât list in LFG for max level raids on a none max level character. So, all these people they âhireâ to spam trade chat all day are futile.
Except this new policy change doesnât automatically mean those accounts will disappear immediately. Itâll just mean Blizzard has clarified thereâs a reason for you to report them and a reason for Blizzard to take action now.
It doesnât mean theyâll be able to sweep away those advertisers, if Blizzard needs to do it manually. If they rely only on people triggering the automated function of the report system, then itâll rely on actually having enough players logged in and reporting them on each realm.
This is the arena forum. Whatâs annoying for people here are those advertisers in the LFG, not the trade chat.
Advertisers in LFG are not annoying for me, though. Takes 2 seconds to report an LFG advertiser and you donât see them again. You really think this change has been made with arena lfg advertisers in mind? Please. Itâs directed towards the trade chat which is flooded with ><<<<<< WTS XCJAIKDAKDAIKDAKD all day every single day.
Have you tried talking to these arena advertisers who say âadd me on discordâ and then they end up boosting you through a community? I wouldnât know, so I would like to be enlightened. After all, the policy update is about COMMUNITIES, I have NEVER seen a community explicitly advertised in the LFG arena section.
Really? Theyâve changed it? I havenât exactly been using LFG in quite a while now. When I used to do it and report them and so on, theyâd just pop right back up with a refresh of the list.
Are you intentionally acting obtuse right now? Why else do you think they take the conversations to discord? Itâs obviously to mention things they donât want recorded on Blizzardâs chat servers. Is that so hard to comprehend?
Uhm, not exactly. Itâs about organizations and then they included communities to count as an organization.
Because arena advertisers arenât allowed to explicitly say âhelping/boosting FOR gold etcâ in game. I listed ONE lfg group a couple months ago saying âhelping in 2s for goldâ and got banned for a week for âdisruptive gameplayâ.
These WoW communities and organisations are literally synonymous with each other. âN*va b**sting communityâ is still an organisation, as well as a community. This is what the policy update is directly aimed at. Feel free to log on to Tarren Mill right now and read the trade chat.
Ironic. Isnât fully informed on a topic and unironically trying to argue with someone who is:
Using and looking at are two different things. Not that it has any relevance with what Iâve said though. And I actually remembered what you mentioned, with the âdisappearing from the listâ-bit. Yes, they remove them from the list if you report them, even after a refresh theyâre still gone. However, thereâs a timer on that function to hide them. After a while, refresh again and there they are once more. Itâs like a magic! (If you donât get the reference, then youâre no fun.)
You didnât know that it was changed that you canât explicitly mention you are boosting for gold in LFG anymore, thatâs why they say âadd me on Discord for more infoâ. Those players are essentially âfree agentsâ because of the split that the communities take from you. (I know this because my friends do it and have given this exact reasoning). I mean, if you can prove to me that youâve spoken to one of those Arena advertisers in LFG who actually boosted for x community, then I will hold my hand up
Communities such as Nva were never/rarely stated in the LFG arena tool, they were always mentioned in trade chat. <Nva WTS SoD 0 -2100 m+15â all day every single day. Therefore, it is easier for customers to get their services just from looking in trade chat rather than navigating through LFG and having to add somebody on Discord. So, the policy updates prohibits these communities which are ALSO organisations.
somebody with 4.5k posts on an alt character has no say on what is and what isnât fun
How long is this timer? I have reported so many advertisements and have not seen them appear again.
Donât remember. Thatâs why I was vague about it. But Iâm a very stubborn person, so Iâve spent literally hours browsing the LFG list when I was actively playing for rating. Sit long enough and keep refreshing after youâve reported someone and youâll see the timer for yourself. (They arenât exactly memories you WANT to remember, I hope you can at least understand that much.)
Never have, never will. But those people asking people to add them on discord in LFG, have been around for longer than since boosting for gold became popularized. Admittedly there were fewer of them back then, but they were still around.
I think itâs still gonna be problematic to operate a boosting-com because itâs pretty obvious, since these people are moving tens and hundreds of millions of gold across realms each month. It wouldnât even require any ressources to track them down, a bot would be able to identify any of these operations.
Theyâve already got a program keeping track of gold flow, to mark suspicious movements. Except itâs not so great, there are organizations (particularly the gold-selling websites) with ways to âfly under the radarâ for such things, to avoid the automated punishments. And Blizzard isnât the greatest at doing it manually, as Classic and TBC Classic shouldâve demonstrated to you. (Sure, was a banwave in the autumn last year that targeted people buying gold in TBC Classic iirc, but one or two banwaves with years of gold-buying that it even became part of the norm in Classic (and TBC) doesnât exactly help much.)
Sure, to a normal human suspicious movements arenât that hard to spot. But when they rely on software to flag such events, these organizations starts dodging the parameters. For example, instead of sending one big bulk of gold all at once, they can send a little bit at a time. The program starts marking total sums of money at weekâs end that was transferred via mail, the organizations can start sending gold with random items and some text to say something to give context for the gold, and so on.
Thereâs a constant push-and-pull between Blizzardâs anti-cheat efforts and the organizationsâ efforts to dodge them. Blizzard hasnât exactly been paying people to do it manually that much, so this is what you get.
Also, they still allow boosting for gold as you can see, as they always have, and these events naturally leads to a lot of gold trading hands between characters, which naturally gets swept up in the flag software. So they have to sift through all the legit boosters, and separate them from the illegitimate. Which, as history shouldâve shown you, is something they tend to leave the punishments for banwaves, which doesnât occur that often and doesnât catch every single offender.
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