Hardcore PvP Option

Dude you are on the “Classic Hardcore” forums.

There are no “Hardcore PvP servers”. The current hardcore servers are PvE only. The servers you mentioned were just normal PvP servers run privately. I am not asking for changes to normal non Hardcore servers.

Currently there is no PvP option for Hardcore servers at all.

My suggestions allows an option. You are getting mad at me saying I want to get of PvP servers…not at all. You are on the classic Hardcore forum mate.

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There is no hardcore in ganking simulator that you are suggesting. Thank you I had enogh of in in October 2019.

In what I’m suggesting, you could choose not to opt in, therefore it wouldn’t effect you.

Start from yourself o the mighty enforcer. Enable /PvP on HC realm and see how well it goes. PvP is only fun when you can participate in dozen encounters of even matches per day, not when you are ganking 100-0 or are ganked 0-100 and have to start over leveling that may had took you a month of 3h per day play.

All I know about Warmode from that much I played BfA that it was abused by majority faction to gain bonuses with little to no risk of being overwhelmed. So one faction just had the majority and all the benefits and the other had to turn it off due to constant ganking. It sounds more like privilege for playing majority faction, than an option. If implemented it will finish off faction balance in favor of Alliance for good.

There’s a difference between dying at level 35 in STV to a level 60 ganker with permadeath and without.

As we all aware open world classic wow pvp hardcore or not has nothing to do with occasional duels with relatively similar geared and lvled opponent . It is nothing else but ganking by higher lvl twinks.

I don’t think is it going to work in a way you want it to be. Are you going to toggle war mode on while lvling and questing just to be ambushed by rogues on mobs ? Probably not, so when are you going to turn it on? Likely once you get your designated lvl and gear and ready to fight other players. Don’t we have duel to death mode already for that .

Yes exactly like this. That is why you would have higher rate of XP and better rewards, you are taking more risk and it is optional.

If you did, you could not complain. As you chose to do it. If someone doesn’t want to risk this sort of death in return for faster xp/better loot, they don’t have to do so they can level normally and probably they survive longer too !

It is a win win for everyone

Well, what a wonderful idea for gear selling shops. With this on you can pass your full epic set to someone else for real money

It will only lure innocent players into a gankers’ trap. The only one who is going to benefit from this are rogues hiding in the shadows at farming locations I am afraid.

And again nothings stops you from toggling PvP flag on now on hardcore if it is about PvP and not ganking players at farming mobs. Speaking of rewards , what can be better than cut off ear of your defeated enemy anyway :sunglasses:

Isn’t PvP toggle disabled on hardcore ?

You can toggle yourself on hardcore
“On Hardcore realms, players are not automatically flagged for PvP upon attacking another player. To flag yourself for PvP, you must type the command /pvp . You won’t be able to take hostile actions against a flagged enemy player unless you flag yourself deliberately”

I’ll ask something simplier. Why not allow free and limitless BG PvP, just like on every other server?

BGs are an instanced mini-game. I don’t see how it would ruin the realistic HC challenge experience of the servers. HC is all about the feeling of surviving against the game itself, against the PvE aspect of it.

Allow people who enjoy PvP to do so in BGs, while still under the HC ruleset of the servers when exposed to its PvE aspects.

However, as I was writing this very response I came up with a possible problem of allowing what I just suggested. People who PvP will be able to freely spam this activity to gather powerful gear and get an advantage on PvE content, while the players who only do PvE will not be able to have something similar on their own side.

I would allow bgs and even arenas which could be spectacular to watch. Obviously with hardcore one life rule applied.

I think my main objection to this system is that it disadvantages me. If I use it anyone can attack me but I can’t attack them.

I would prefer an environment where everyone has agreed to be flagged, so PvP is always fair in the sense that it’s simply a fact of the world.

Whether that’s a dedicated hardcore PvP server or a Warmode

Not everyone can attack you. In order to attack a player on HC realms you need to be flagged for pvp. So only people who have chosen to do pvp can attack you.

You can’t even buff or heal a friendly player who’s flagged, if you’re not flagged yourself. Compulsive buffer me actually tried that once…

level to 60 do some dungeons, maybe MC too. Go to WPL /enable warmode kill every level 55-60 that you see leveling…