Things went from “MMOs are dying” to just “WoW is dying” real quick huh 
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I think when you look up and try and find a new home for your guild/community, you realise there isn’t actually a lot of choice or competition.
FF14 or ESO… and both aren’t exactly new games either. Which in a way makes me think WoW does have a chance to come back, but it all depends on what happens next.
you’re better than this tehya come on pal
Pretty sure in terms of game design and direction, this has mostly been the case recently. Blizzard has gotten used to people just giving them money even if the product is subpar. Now with FFXIV hopefully taking the lead (and any other MMO), hopefully this can kick the execs off their asses as well and get them working instead of cube crawling.
Just hope it won’t come at the expense of, you know, their employees getting abused and harassed even worse, which is what we’re discussing here, and we shouldn’t pile onto it by being dismissive of their problems. Blizzard should give refunds as suggested earlier if the product isn’t being developed.
I think what doesn’t help is Blizzard hasn’t announced anything major since this all came to light (unless I missed it?!)
No one has resigned, no one has lost their job, and only some vague promises to do better and a load of apologies which while essential, achieve nothing.
All the while this plays out and gathers momentum.
I mean there is a real danger their inaction over this just allows it to become so big they can’t undo the damage. Something needs happen THIS WEEK.
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Not even Asmongold will be left around to turn the lights off… 
Like I’ve noticed the impact on RP already; dozens of individuals & even some quite long standing guilds calling it a day, the Valley of Honour empty - people already just aren’t logging in like they used to, and that’ll hit the morale of the RPers who do remain, and certainly deter anyone who’s new =( I’m not saying AD will ever become quite the same sort of ghost town that Defias Brotherhood et al have become, but there’ll be a lot more empty spaces in a once busy world, which is totally understandable, but still upsetting.
My one wish is that I’d gotten into my RP stride sooner rather than spending so many years messing about/making mistakes =(
I do agree with this though! If they have a major re-think, cut out the rot from the company at large (translated: sack all the s*x predators), and the next expansion is STELLAR, there’s a solid chance that it might bring people back. Not all of them for sure, but enough to give it a second wind. Look at the engoodening of No Man’s Sky - they turned that around BIG time, and that was done by a team of 6 friends in a garden shed!
It’ll take a lot to pull it off, but I’m willing to give them the benefit of the doubt; hell, maybe even WoW 2.0 might be the place to go at this point, a total clean slate.
Who knows, maybe the competition from anime bunnygirl simulator might be kick to the behind Blizzard needs.
Maybe they just need to add anime bunnygirls to WoW, even.
Thank you friend; I’m not often correct, and I always regret when I am
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Again I repeat what is a simple thing :
Blizzard, all you had to do was not harass and sexually abuse your employees and make a good product.
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I think it might in the short term, though the internet tends to be quite amnesiac.
WoW may take a dip, but I don’t think it will be a lasting one tbqh. The game dipped with WoD and Legion felt pretty revitalising. A solid expansion will bring a lot of people back to the game, especially if it veers away from the unpopular story beats or mechanics.
The question is -if- Blizz can pull a Legion again. WoD was the first time WoW hit a new low, and they managed to use all of the lore surrounding fel magic in a single expansion. The context surrounding legion was solid, and it was the chance everyone was waiting for (that is, giving Blizzard another chance).
What is truly left to offer now? The void lords? Another faction conflict?
They’ll have a hard time creating a new expansion.
Yeah I am but sometimes I have to lower myself to make a point, I hope it sticks.
Hope not tbh I don’t want the average wow player on my mmo
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WoW Australia, south of Pandaria letting us explore a new continent complete with a mysterious crystal mountain that’s totally not a naaru spacecraft that crashed in prehistoric times.
Kangaroo, koala and croc people. Didgeridoo soundtrack. It’s all right there to work with.
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Definitely they need to do a Pandaria IMO.
meaning it won’t happen and we’ll fight new, previously unknown dark evil masterminds that were behind all the bad stuff all along in outer space
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I’m not sure Pal, Legion was fun and full of content but it more or less solidify the systems reliant expansion we keep having. I mean sure, if they can pull something of the level of Legion people will return but the more skeptical bunch who can recognize the pattern will probably not be convinced.
I recoil at the idea of more cosmic BS.
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A reverse Cataclysm.
Rebuild and update the world.
Show what problems have arisen since the Shadowlands and wars.
Cults, undead, bandits. Something grounded, sure there can be void doings, but let it come into shape slowly, give us world building first.
Also, this really should be an independent topic.
Screw sexual harassment and similar acts.
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FFXIV taking the lead doesn’t have to mean average wow players coming to your mmo, simply unsubbing and going to anywhere else (not necessarily ffxiv) can still bring the lead for ffxiv.
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true but it does imply it, and i’m afraid of implications
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They’ll get filtered by ARR
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Edit. I’m derailing the thread. Sorry, I couldn’t resist posting a complaint like that. Edit. You know what. Out of respect for the thread, I’m moving my reply to the pet peeve section
https://eu.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/pet-peeves-the-return/238559/18646
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Thanks. While people are allowed to discuss whatever they are like, I really do think that this particular thread should try and stick to its rather important topic. I understand it’s easy to distracted by subjects like “this is what I think the game needs,” but we should respect the severity of what’s happened by remaining focused on it.
A week might have passed since the first information we got about the misconduct and the joy of fresh outrage might have passed as the news aged, but we can’t afford to move on, just because it’s no longer as exciting as it once was. If the scrutiny goes away and people get ‘bored’ of caring about the harassment, then Activision Blizzard will get to brush this under the carpet and carry on, business as usual.
If you want to see some actual change in the development team of this game and want something to be done about the harassment, it’s up to you to remain invested in this subject and to keep on hounding Blizzard about it.
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