im reading night fae is best for bm now not kyrian is this true?
its was kyrian for such a long time i know it was nurfed this week
The best covenant is still the one you like best. Always was.
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they will tune it so yes that is true just go with what theme you like
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Night fae is best now for raiding and m+
Night fae is best for bm hunters.
as the others have said, night fae is the best but Kyrian isn’t bad. check out the WoWhead guides. https://www.wowhead.com/guides/beast-mastery-hunter-best-covenant-shadowlands
WHY???
i dont want kyrian and least of all nightferry
plan was to go venthyr or if its trash go madraxus
now they say both are trash?? and venthyr is even worse single target aswell??
who is responsible for this?
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Smart how they made Kill Shot cost focus so it benefits from SV mastery stat (BM excluded) but the decision to nerf Flayed Shot so much that it is borderline weaker than other AOE effects on a single target is a dumb one.
Flayed Shot is almost a non-choice for BM. Kill Shot damage isn’t bonus on top of anything baseline as many would consider, you just deduct the damage of a filler spender ability from it to see how much you gain, because you still need to spend a GCD and you have a limit on those.
I’ve read that haste increases the frequency of FS ticks to allow more free casts, but everyone can see how big the gap becomes if you for example decide to pick MM or SV. Over 10min boss fights the numbers add up.
SV FS seems to use the Venthyr themed hand crossbow, unlike the default pandaren theme skin from 10 years ago. Cosmetic inconsistency, could use an upgrade.
Under 20% if you’ve wasted your regular KS cooldown, FS proc will instantly refresh it allowing you to instantly cast another, but not the other way around. This might not be problematic in tunnelvision combat but makes the ability feel very awkward in open world and dungeons.
The 14s duration also makes it impractical in PVP. I can’t remember if DOTs still get removed by crowd control effects or if they instead stay and break Freezing Trap. One situation cheats you out of procs and the other makes it awkward to use CC at the most convenient moment.
Cosmetically it looks appealing, but FS could be more subtle and the spell effect little bit smaller. It feels like casting off a red Chaos Bolt with an appropriately loud sound effect.
On top of everything, I now understand why they capped AOE to five targets, because of the nonsense AOE scaling from Kyrian and Nightfae in combination with cooldowns. The entire class and expansion design philosophy is nonsense. I’d prefer covenants to be a role play factor and an aesthetic choice, how long until they turn all the covenant abilities into a talent row for convenience?
And what about pvp ?
I can’t choose for world pvp, bgs etc…
Help me please !
I feel like the los ignoring of Kyrian is too valuable a tool to give up in pvp. Even if the damage falls behind.
Kyrian iirc is best for PVP situations.
Meanwhile Night Fae simp cult is best for all types of PVE.
I miss the times when the covenants were well rounded for hunter, with Venthyr and Necrolords just being a ~1% ahead of the rest if even that.
Night Fae is meant to best for M+ and Raiding. I was going to go Night Fae anyway, regardless of the meta, before I’d tried them out… but after using Flayed Shot for a while from Venthyr, I love it.
Balance is going to change so I’m going with the skill I prefer to be using mechanically over anything else. Anything could happen and picking the BiS is almost guarenteed a nerf right now. It will have been focused by Blizz immediately.
Door of Shadows is cool to use as well.
The problem is that Venthyr just does nothing for multi target. Even if it’s buffed that will not change unless they decide to overhaul/change the entire ability which I would say is extremely unlikely.
You can put it on one enemy and kill shot others.
Here’s what I think needs to change with the skill. The chance needs to be 20%, for a start, if you kill an enemy with the dot on them it resets the cooldown on kill shot or if it expires, it resets the cooldown. Basically, when the DoT ends, however it ends, it resets killshot’s cooldown.
At the very least, this skill should beat the others in single target by a decent amount.
There’s no way I would have gone Night Fae, their transmogs are hideous.
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Kill shotting other mobs isn’t really aoe though.
It’s a strange situation where two abilities are really strong for aoe and venthyr is supposed to be single target but that is imo the whole problem since you can’t switch easily. If venthyr became super strong on st all of a sudden we’d be choosing which aspect of gameplay we’d gimp ourselves in. I consider myself lucky that night fae is good on both st and aoe, considering I like ardenweald, here’s to hoping they don’t nerf it into the ground.
I like Ardenweald but those gear sets… god, I think they are some of the worst sets I’ve ever seen.
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