Crusader Strike eu was teeming with players a few weeks ago, but now looking at bulletin board past week or so its never been so barren. Barely any dungeon groups, no SM grps for my alts to lvl in, 20-40 world empty on each layer. Are people just waiting for P4?
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7 day lockout on a 20 man raid team was the worst possible thing they could ever have done,
The easy 30-40 min raids on a 10 man 3 day lockout was so perfect for SoD.
But they had to go and appease the people wanting harder more organised content.
Not to mention incursions killed pretty much any open world content outside of max lvl offering farms that you are still only allowed 5 per hr… it’s just dumb
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I dont want 2 hour raids if i did id go play another version of the game. I actually cba to gear or level at all hardly. Boring, long mob killing grind for a 20 man raid
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20 Man Raids killed so many small guilds and the fun for the players.
Also the consumes cost are ridiculous
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I started in P3 and honestly have nothing good to say about the state of the game, subs running out, I got one month can’t see any reason to stay for a second.
Everything seems rushed and untested
They had to have had the foresight and professional experience to know this was going to be the case, that not enough time effort and testing has happened.
The fact that the Dev team is asking for players help to fix class’s on twitter is beyond comical to me, but people seem fine with that, they get to put forward all their idea’s and do blizz’s job for them.
They must have known putting one offering boss in only a few dungeons would lead to ignoring all other content, if they had offerings drop from every higher level dungeon boss it would have kept dungeons being a useful thing to do, but they are skipped now because nothing useful can be gained.
Who would have thought we would be 10 man raiding princess several times an hour for the latest and greatest round of content
Sod could have been really good if they invested more into it, but they have admitted the teams too small and they dont have enough time. Triple A gaming experience for all.
The devs can’t be enjoying this and by reading the forums players are not enjoying this…so who is…shareholders maybe
Things must be tight they can’t afford more staff
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2 hours? ST is one hourat best.
And if you want quick easy 10 man raids, wotlk is your game. SoD was advertised as a Classic PLUS, not Classic minus.
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Blizz already got the money they wanted.
Pretty smart. A small investment and hype then drag people into garbage events and grind. While the dev team is retiring to other things.
This is pretty obvious now that the dev team for SoD is so small.
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You need to stop basin these assumptions on raids with people doing 1500 dps and without wipes and constant run backs and rebuffing.
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Its one hour at best if you have all 20 man run it before…. Which is t the case for a lot of guilds. We constantly having to pug people because its to many people and the raid takes to long. If you can do it in a hour you gotta be having very good gear to
most ppl i know have quit by now. Consumables have too much of an impact on performance and none wants to be bottom dps just because they didnt spend 50 gold on flasks and pots for the raid evening.
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Hopefully prices will drop
Prices will only get worse, theres hunters doing nightmare seed farms, bots in incursions 
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Wotlk is soon cata and in cata the raids go even harder.
Incursions are filled with bots, but when there are more items sold it get cheaper.
Illusion dust were 12g one week ago, last night they were 7g
No way normal players do it in 1h. Just saying. Having all you dps at 900/1k + dps is not normal. Go there with 600-700 dps people and go clean in 1 hour.
1h is full sweat mode. A normal group will wipe on shade as well.
Anyway OT: i think as a caster 2 things
- Gear there is mostly trash
- Shade fight is pure bs mechanicaly and annoying AF.
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So 7 days lockout on a 20man raid where you barely get mini upgrades feel absolutely worthless. Just get emerald / pvp set and call it a day
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Gold: lost its value. And got abused/ exploited with no roll back. You don’t recover from that and make goldmaking worthless now.
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PvP: STV killed BGs and gave free gear / rep / rank to people who never put a foot in AB. It feels that grinding honor ranks in pvp is worthless because of how easy it was for players who abused STV.
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Barely any balance. Be it pve or pvp
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Raiding philosophy: they went retail like culture instead of easy tank’n’spank vanilla culture. To catter to speedrunners, m+ players, youtubers. They overtuned, took a 180 and lost both groups of players now. The classic Andys and the dads.
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I mean they have to prepare people for the bigger raids at 60 obviously. Or you really see yourself doing MC, BWL, AQ40, NAXX and Karazhan crypts all on a 3 day lockout?
Also 30-40 mins raid? What kinda disrespect is that. You want to raid or do dungeons? The average WC even takes longer. Just don’t play the game if you only want to rush it to log out asap
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Who would even want to play cata with the one sided faction realms, flying mounts etc?
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I agree. I don’t want to spend so much gold on consumes to compete or collect world buffs. Raids should have been without these things
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If higher than 20 man raid comes out sod will die a very quick death. I wont be sticking around either
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If can recall correctly, they already mentioned raids will be 20 and not 40 man