Havoc Demon Hunter rotation needs some urgent changes in Shadowlands

Classes Demon Hunter
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`https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmzI0teNieQ

Look at this guy’s gameplay. Outside of spells that are cooldowns he’s basically only using Chaos Strike and Demon Bite. Blade Dance’s cooldown seems to be higher than before. That’s a big yikes from me dawg, our rotation is already mind numbing but to literally only press Demon Bite and Chaos Strike 95% of the fight is just sad.

Blade Dance looks like it’s on a 8 sec cooldown in that video. 8 seconds of building fury with Bite and spending it with Chaos Strike.

Yikes.

Now imagine Demon Blades, where Bite is gone. You’re only using Chaos Strike, Blade Dance every 8 seconds and Fel blades if it procs.

Big yikes.

Furthermore, Demonic only gives you Meta for 6 seconds now, which means you can no longer get 2 Blade Dances during the Eye Beam Meta.

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Big yikes!

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I dont get how Blizzard can think a spec where at its core you only press Demons Bite and Chaos Strike in a single target fight is fine.

If we do not pick first blood and burning hatred we would only press 2 two TWO buttons. Wat.

Immolation aura not talented is not even worth to cast on ST because the damage is actually worse than CS

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Lmao I didn’t even think of this. With Demon Blades, Felblade and no First Blood you’d literally only press Chaos Strike and Felblade when it procs.

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If I remember correctly, Blade Dance has a 9 sec cooldown at the moment, so the base cd isn’t higher. What’s different is the end-of-expansion haste you have on your gear now and most importantly the sh*t ton of haste you get from stacking Furious Gaze on your azerite pieces.

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Why not Demonic Appetite? Then you don’t even have to press Felblade.

Perhaps Me and Blizzard have very different views on class philosophy. I believe a class should be fun and playable without any talents at all - they should just enhance a certain playstyle.
The core of the class is lacking abilities.
For example, these changes could be made:

  • First Blood should be baseline to allow Blade Dance to be used in rotation.
  • Picking up Soul Fragments should grant fury baseline (to encourage mobility).
  • Essence Break (new Dark Slash) should have a longer duration, and other talents on this row should encourage different types of burst windows, or maybe even make this baseline as well.
  • Momentum should be baseline and trigger from X yds of any kind of movement.
  • Demonic should be baseline and / or the cooldown of Meta needs to be heavily reduced. Who the hell wants to play with a 4 min cooldown? Imagine Assa rogues having Vendetta on 4 min cd as their only ability to get a kill. Would they be happy?

Then all of those things becoming baseline would have to be replaced by interesting talents. It is too much work and it will not happen. Sad.

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Spot on, Havoc requires a talent to have a 3 spell rotation instead of 2.

That’s nuts.

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DH was born in the era of MOBA class design when Ion decided that 2-button rotations is fun.

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