HC+ what a royal mess

I remember the original WOTLK. I did LOADS of HC and geared up all my alts and unguilded chars with badges.

And I just enjoyed badgefarming.

Now its just plain frustrating. Half of the groups Im in fall apart and my lower GS alts can not even get into a group…

And I dont want to spend a fortune on buying gear, do raids or PVP… thats not what I enjoy ( and i ACTUALLY play the game FOR ENJOYMENT!)

Why could not Blizz have put that gear buyable for more badges / emblems instead? That would have encouraged loads to do normal regulars…

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Shame on you (us) to assume Blizzard gives a withered damn about newcomers and low-geared chars.

Not counting all the other problems with H+ ALL THEY HAD TO DO was separate the LFD queue’s to their own listings (Heroic LFD and Heroic+ LFD).
Would solve a huge amount of frustration for many, in my humble opinion.

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Yeah agreed. Good luck getting into some H+ with a freshly dinged char. Realistically you need to get crafted gear and probably some honor gear as a newly levelled character.

Not really. What Blizzard would actually need to do is to entirely separate Heroics and Titan Rune Dungeons. Right now because they’re technically the same instance sharing lockout you can only do one or another which naturally leads geared players to do HC+ since those drop More current tier Emblems as a daily. This narrows the pool for those who’d want/need to play regular heroics to gear up.

Things to consider

  • The dungeons are not difficult in a technical sense such as requiring crowd control as in Burning Crusade and Classic. At best they’re mildly frustrating mechanics that feel slapped on - some afterthought that never did quite work well

  • Nobody should be gear checking others for these dungeons, that’s appalling and embarrassing. Failing in them is not a gear issue

  • Doing Heroic +/Nightmare dungeons is going to be far more appealing to the majority of players for what I am certain are obvious reason that we can conjure up in our heads

And as such those geared raiding players should be able to easily carry others
In fact, why are they even bothering? We’ll run four or three persons sometimes if we have to, we don’t require anyone for groups.

I get that PUGs are more efficient this time around and decent for some raiding ; though part of this issue is that mindset has permeated it’s way through the culture of the entire game - beyond raiding. There are far too many persons trying to go pro-casual and expecting to be catered to, yet at same time won’t make the effort or commit to a group/guild.

Solution

  1. Raiders - stop gear checking people for dungeons
  2. Casuals - stop complaining about a game that’s not meant to be done alone
    Join a guild, this isn’t World of Randoms.
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Or you could just have friends / guildies willing to run with you.

How many times are my guildies and friends are willing to join me in my random heroic # whatever of the day/week? how many alts is enough alts befure they start removing me from their friends list? at what time is it ok to ask people that they should run heroics with me?
What an absolutely stupid response to just tell people “just join a guild/make friends and you’ll have people running heroics with you”
No that’s not how it works in-game in 2023.

What if they’re not willing? If they have their own goals and plans and just ain’t going to run with you?

I find this more likely, outside of organised raids people tend to do things on their own time and around their own schedule, getting together 5 people who all need the daily at the same time is often not going to happen and pugging is more practical.

Thanks to the Classic ERA babies cried for no RDF because of the famous social.
Blizzard is not the responsable here.

What do you mean? You don’t have thousands of guildies and a friends list that’s full of people willing to run ANY content with you any time of the time whenever you log in one of your characters? Are they not leaving their own dungeons/raids/whatever they’re doing to help you?

This.
And I can’t even leave a note in my dungeon finder because I can’t update my phone number, without access to my old number
I changed faction on mograine this morning, I changed faction because ITS NEAR IMPOSSIBLE TO GET NORMAL HC runs
HC+ can swivel on a fat one, it’s ridiculous

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