Help needed regarding Ironfur

So i currently pushing M+ and always get complained at for not using ironfur enough, checking details, the uptime is roughly 80-85% of all combat in a dungeon.

My question is - How many stacks of Ironfur should i be maintaining? (i usually maintain 3 on a avg pack, or if its a pack i know its hard i will try for 5.

Do the math. At 7 stacks and 500k armor you are very close to, but still aren’t fully armor capped and damage per press reaches half of a single Maul’s hit value.

If many enemies are hitting you, probably keep pressing Ironfur, but if only one or two are around you, you can mix abilities as you see fit, especially if one of them is a caster to whom your armor is irrelevant.

Reaching 85% reduction through armor may not be a necessity even against solo bossses and for the average user the damage output between capped armor Thorns and Maul will be negligible for your overall output.

You’ll get a feel for it eventually. A handful of Ironfur stacks is essential but whether you keep dumping more rage into armor (which has a diminishing effect) or pure damage output is completely optional. More damage reduction may put your healer at ease allowing them to deal damage themselves but if you choose to deal more damage while taking more damage, the healer will need to adapt and spam heal you, thus dealing less damage themselves.

The logic is simple you just need to find the right balance as you feel comfortable. In the end the complete damage output of the group should not differ too much. The balance between different healer classes is currently a disaster so I can’t offer you a one size fits all answer.


You shouldn’t worry too much unless you’re playing a physical build with Raze, Flashing Claws and Ursoc’s Fury, in which case your goal is to maintain a balance of high armor while not dropping or overcapping your absorb shield (caps at a percentage value of your total hp), but as things currently are, it is unlikely that there is a single guardian druid who isn’t playing as a lunar bear.

Are you sure that they knew what they were asking for? Some healers only know the basic active mitigation of the tanks. In caster heavy dungeons, you’ll also need to chain barkskin into lunar beam and rage of the sleeper. Make sure to keep an eye on your health in case you need to heal ofc.

As the above poster already pointed out, iron fur is great but it only works on physical

Thank you for the response

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Your first stack of Ironfur gives almost as much armor as you have in bear form and as such is most valuable. The more you press, every consecutive one will add a smaller percentage of physical damage reduction until you reach your ultimate, but entirely unnecessary goal of 85%.

When you said someone was complaining about Ironfur uptime, they probably weren’t thinking about the number of stacks. As you’re killing a pack try to make sure NOT TO DUMP ALL THE RAGE before walking into the next group so you can at least constantly maintain that single, essential stack as you begin to take aggro once again.

Fresh pulls with no rage reserve are when you are most vulnerable so many healers will panic at the sight of your health dropping rapidly in the first few seconds. One or two stacks of Ironfur before taking initial damage from a pack of mobs will make a massive difference and your healer will love you for it.

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