Help With New PC Selection

[Nazak-silvermoon]

@Nannexx-argent-dawn

You do realize, especially at 1080p, GPU is the least thing to care about, right? High FPS numbers at 1080p don’t come from GPUs, they come from CPUs, and there the X3Ds outperform Intel. Modern GPUs, even mid-lower ones, get bored anyway at 1080p, so you need a better CPU to generate those frames

The only reason to buy a Intel CPU these days is if you are pairing your Intel GPU with Intel CPU .otherwise amd CPU is always better option for Nvidia and amd GPU cards

[Cheshi-lightbringer]

@Nazak-silvermoon

@Nannexx-argent-dawn

You do realize, especially at 1080p, GPU is the least thing to care about, right? High FPS numbers at 1080p don’t come from GPUs, they come from CPUs, and there the X3Ds outperform Intel. Modern GPUs, even mid-lower ones, get bored anyway at 1080p, so you need a better CPU to generate those frames

The only reason to buy a Intel CPU these days is if you are pairing your Intel GPU with Intel CPU .otherwise amd CPU is always better option for Nvidia and amd GPU cards

Unless you use your PC for more than gaming.

Productivity is just as important for me as gaming. For that reason I am staying away from Ryzen 5 and 7.

If you need productivity performance next to gaming you are better of with Ryzen 9, Core ultra 7 or 9.

[Muscrat-anachronos]

@Nazak-silvermoon

Never buy a pre build PC especially from these kind of companies that say we specialize .the only thing they specialize is ripping the customer wallet and selling you a thing for more price that you could had gotten for dirt cheap yourself.

On a 2000 pound pre-built 600 of that will be for labour.

For 600 you can buy an AMD 9060XT 16 GB and an AMD CPU of the lower spec R5 variety for your system and that is almost half of the computer.

[Someoneelse-xavius (Someoneelse)]

@Doowie-silvermoon

Also, if you do get a prebuilt or one where you get the parts, and they build it, make sure you get the extended warranty for an extra year. Because it will be worth it, if their build breaks, so you can get a replacement. If that warranty goes, and it breaks, you’ve just got yourself a 2k paperweight!

@Doowie-silvermoon

Just checked and the build has a 5 year warranty, which is pretty good!

If it didn’t have a 5 year guarantee then you’d have legal recourse. A product has to last a reasonable life. One year would not be reasonable for a PC.

Do you work for Curry’s?
Never buy am extended warranty

[Elysia-die-todeskrallen]

@Muscrat-anachronos

Dont buy a pre=made computer. Its a waste of money.

Not always, companies can get much better prices buying directly from distributors (or sometimes even the manufacturer) than you would by going through retail. Especially for pre-built computers where they can simply buy every component in bulk.

The upside is that you will have a system that comes with a warranty - rather than having individual pieces - and can be returned if the system, not the parts, has issues. I’d say it’s worth considering pre-builts, but cross-checking what you’d pay for the individual pieces.

And I usually build my systems myself as well, because I think it’s a fun activity. But pre-mades get too much of a bad rep IMO.

@Muscrat-anachronos

Most likely in the Ryzen 5 category of the 9000 series chips. 9600x. While 229 pounds for a CPU may sound expensive., it is not But this CPU may even be good enough for longer than a year or two.

Do not go for a 9600X if you want to play WoW. Save on the GPU instead. WoW is severely CPU limited, and you will want that X3D CPU, because this will be your primary driver for better framerates. WoW’s graphics are simple enough for just about any mid tier GPU to handle, the CPU is where FPS are being held back.

[Rombei-nordrassil]

I recommend not going with Intel they wont honor their warranty when obviously they screwed up, AMD has had similar screw ups or even worse but least they honor their warranty.

[Muscrat-anachronos]

@Elysia-die-todeskrallen

Not always, companies can get much better prices buying directly from distributors (or sometimes even the manufacturer) than you would by going through retail. Especially for pre-built computers where they can simply buy every component in bulk.

Buying your self and building yourself will in %99.9 of cases be cheaper. You are paying them for the labour and the standard retail 1/3 profit margin. Show me a case of a fully built computer being cheaper please. Show me. Modern hardware. Not ancient tech from ten years ago.

@Elysia-die-todeskrallen

The upside is that you will have a system that comes with a warranty

Individual parts dont come with a warranty? News to me. Dont know which part is borked? Well, this is where experience comes into play. Which you wont get when you buy pre-built.

Swap out and test. It helps to have hardware around to swap and test. But people who build their own tend to have this stuff laying around.

Occams Razor helps as well as that tends to be true in most cases.

Prebuilds get a bad rep for a reason. Insane profits that the customer has to pay. Shoddy barely medium specd gear for top dollar prices.

The work that goes into these is also questionable with people not giving a hoot if they strip your screws. Is it tight? Good. Woops. i guess this electric screw driver dug a bit deep and now the screw spins in place. Pfftt…not mine. I dont care.

Is that cable plugged in all the way. I thought it went in a bit sideways. pfft…not mine i dont care.

@Elysia-die-todeskrallen

Do not go for a 9600X if you want to play WoW. Save on the GPU instead. WoW is severely CPU limited, and you will want that X3D CPU, because this will be your primary driver for better framerates.

Any 9000 series X3D is ten times overkill for wow. and if all you play is wow then you dont need that x3d for sure. You wont need that 5080 either. Nor the 9060XT to be honest. Heck, a 3060 will do.

There are cases where pre builds are better. The corporate environment is one where 100 of the same damn machines are on the same floor. But for gamers this is not the case.

[Nasroht-draenor]

Ever thought about how much your hobbies really cost you per hour?
A trip to the cinema in my country? 50€ with popcorn. Average movie length? 2 hours. That’s 25€ per hour.
But World of Warcraft? Around 40 hours of gameplay a month (for me as an adult with obligations). The hardware lasts for years, and the entertainment is endless (I have played wow for 20 years).

PC Setup:
• AMD 9800X3D
• 32GB RAM
• Radeon 9070 XT

Or go Apple:
• M4 Pro – 12-core CPU / 16-core GPU
• Yes, WoW runs great on Mac (just search it on YouTube). Granted this works if you do not plan to play Windows only games.

It’s hard to beat the value per hour that gaming brings. So if one can afford it, why not go all in and not overthink it? Some people have horses as hobbies, now that is expensive pr. hour (in my country).

[Vrachka-anachronos]

My single bit of advice would be…don’t go any higher than an RTX4xxx and stay away from RTX5xxx
Cost vs performance increase isn’t worth it IMO

I have an RTX4060 and an i7 running at 2k and it’s sweet as a nut

[Beerwolf-sunstrider (Beerwolf)]

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