Help With New PC Selection

Hi,

I am hoping to get some unbiased advice from fellow WoW players. I go into stores and the sales associates understandably have something to gain by trying to sell me something.

I need a new PC to play WoW and I am willing to pay up to around 2k GBP but if I can get something cheaper that suits my needs I am hoping to get a good deal.

I want to play on high FPS with high/ultra settings without having the need to constantly turn them down depending on the content.

I have seen this PC but I am not sure what I am really looking for as I am not tech-savvy and I feel that is being taken advantage of in stores because I am an easy target. Would the below suit my needs and does anyone have any suggestions?

I really miss playing WoW and I am hoping you all can help me get back sooner!

The new ryzen X3D are good processor and smart price if you buy prebuild or build new yourself now, also make sure the gfx card has atleast 16 gig ram and dont buy anything with 8gb anymore even if they try put them on the market still. The rest is choises you have to make depending your own wallet what you are comfortable to put for it, tech advances with such speed that anything you buy now will be old in next 6 years more or so, price related factor for me.

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I was in a similar situation as you a year ago and I was about to recommend CyberPower Uk and I see your image is from them. I contacted them as wasn’t really sure what I needed and had a call and then we exchanged a few emails narrowing down what would work for me - they were really accommodating, super helpful and now a year later my new pc is still fab :+1:
… you don’t have to commit with a sale, they will try to assist - well they did with me etc…

Forgot to mention that I gave them my budget and didn’t spend it all in the end, my pc was cheaper than I thought it would be :grin:

Update - if it helps after reading some further comments - mine wasn’t pre built - they built it with feedback from me in terms of what I was looking for and yes I have AMD etc

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You have some leg room: 2k is your budget, why not future-proof the PC, get a better CPU, i9.

Nah dont go for prebuilds, you can often get a much better one when you choose the parts yourself. Especially if your budget is 2k, you can get a really good build with that.

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Depends, most prebuilds are perfectly fine.

If you go through a company, who will build it for you, the overall cost will be a bit higher than the prebuilt system, as they have to charge you for the time spent on building the machine.

Also, if you do get a prebuilt or one where you get the parts, and they build it, make sure you get the extended warranty for an extra year. Because it will be worth it, if their build breaks, so you can get a replacement. If that warranty goes, and it breaks, you’ve just got yourself a 2k paperweight!

Most companies normally have a standard 1 year warranty, which is set in place by law (depending on your country).

Also to the OP… do not go with Intel. Go with AMD for your CPU! You’ll get more performance for a cheaper price!

Just checked and the build has a 5 year warranty, which is pretty good!

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I would say it really depends. I had mine build by a local place and the whole thing was 70€, putting it together, testing, installing windows, drivers etc. 2 year warranty. So definitely a thing to consider and check places out. And ye for sure, go for AMD especially if its gonna be a solely a gaming pc and enterntainment. I have to do 3D on my so had to go RTX and that was like more than half my pc cost. xD The pricing for RTX cards now is mental.

I made a really quick build for about 1500£. With this website you can do some building and check the prices, really good for planning. And once you got about what you want listed, you can take it to the place you’d like to build it have them double check if its a solid build.
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/6D7KQd

Yeah, AMD GPUs are a good choice as well. They’re cheaper and can be better performance wise. Only got with an RTX if you really want to use ray tracing, which is kinda pants anyway.

I know my next computer system will be fully AMD as I’ve always normally gone with Intel & Nvidia since I started to buy/build my own computers.

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I’d go too full but AMD cards dont yet have the oomphf required for 3D and game engine work BUT I can vouch for AMD cpu, price value is a lot better compared to Intel.

This. Don’t buy Intel in 2025. They relegated themselves to 2nd best a few years ago and haven’t recovered.

WoW doesn’t need a lot of GPU, unless you’re getting a 4k monitor. Personally I’m happy with my 32" 1440p screen.

My personal shopping list would be something like…

CPU: 9800X3D
RAM: 32-64 GB of 6000mhz
GPU: 9070 XT or 9060 XT, 16GB models
Motherboard: any X870E
Storage: 2TB pcie 4.0 SSD
Power: ~700 watts

Should fit within your budget just fine. You do not benefit from any more expensive a CPU, and in some cases you may pay more and get worse performance in gaming. If you want to save money there’s a very very good chance the 9060 XT is absolutely all you need for WoW.

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Looks good, I’m going for x3d aswell, only thing I’m not sure yet is gpu. 9060 xt were not so big hit as suspected but it is still cheap 400 euro card that will be more than good for next 6 years. Amd is making 9080 xt now so I’m just thinking what price they will slap on that bad boy :thinking:

Ryzens and amd cards are good value for money, cheap and all you need

I read reviews between the amd 9k and nvidia 5k cards and I understood that the biggest difference looked to be that nvidia gives far superior ray tracing but if you dont care about that or ever plan using ray tracing then amd is half cheaper and delivered same fps results in the games I found comparisons so unless there is any other reason to go nvidia I would prolly go for amd gpu :thinking:

You need to slam a 5090 into that big boy, then get a proper 9950X3D. Fill it up with 192gb of DDR5 then show of all of that RGB bling in a custom Hyte case!

That’s few gold coins expensive build there XD

Dont buy a pre=made computer. Its a waste of money.

Know how to play lego and snap things together? You obviously know how to read. Combine the two and save. Get better hardware instead of paying others to build your machine via the lego method. This way you will also learn a lot.

Follow simple procedures to mitigate electrostatic discharge by grounding yourself to the case a lot. Just touch the metal case before you touch stuff. It is not rocket science difficult.

Christopher Barnatt is a youtuber who publishes the “Explaining Computers” channel.

He has a few clips on how to build computers. Chris is liked by his followers. He is published and teaches at nottingham i believe.

I follow him and have for years. I hold IT certs on the windows platform and hold a comptia A+ certification so i am qualified to repair/build/diagnose computers locally and remotely.

Trust me. You can do this and get far better value for yourself.

Study current tech. Forget Intel. They are history now that AMD surpasses them finally. I waited nearly 30 years for that.

So AMD platform is what i suggest. Intel is now a has been.

AM5 is the most up to date socket but great deals can be had on the now 9 year old AM4 CPU socket that to this day is still receiving brand new CPU’s from AMD. Unheard of that. Brand new CPU’s being released on a last gen 9 year old CPU socket.

I would go AM5. It will cost you more, but i cant recommend a last gen system to build even if you can get great deals. AM4 is now a dead end platform.

Here is what i would do cos the AM5 stuff is not cheap.

Look for a “capable” AMD Zen 5 CPU that i can upgrade in a year or two that does not cost an arm and a leg.

That will give you some time to save for the better CPU. A CPU you can use today that will not break the bank yet let you play games on, does exist. Most likely in the Ryzen 5 category of the 9000 series chips. 9600x. While 229 pounds for a CPU may sound expensive., it is not But this CPU may even be good enough for longer than a year or two.

The 9600x has 6 cores. I bought a 4 core system for years on my gaming machine. So you get 6. 3.9 Ghz base and boosts up to 5.4 which for a while was looking like that frequency is not even possible. It is as we can see. Burst only though. So not not a constant 5.4Ghz. Only bursts of it.

AMD unlike their intel counterparts have a built in memory controller. No north bridge/south bridge needed. So DDR 5 memory is needed. The chip will do 5500 to 6500 DDR5. Costly stuff but then again you are not building a last gen system are you?

65 watt. A cool chip that is. Coolers for that thing will not cost you a lot. Some of the best coolers today in the air cooled variety cost 50 pounds. Thermal take make sgreat ones for 50 pounds. Like the Peerless Assassins series. Just make sure the cooler you buy is for the AM5 socket or whatever platform you buy.

The 9600x is an entry level AM5 chip. The bottom so you have room to grow later and are not spending huge sums right away. But done be fooled. This is better than all stuff on the AM4 platform. It is a totally new architecture.

The 9000 series also perfected the placement of the cache on top of the core complex die as well so no more over heating like we has with the 5800X3D or the 7800x3D wher ethe cache was put under the cheat where the heat had nowhere to go but up onto the chipe. Thereby limiting the OC capability. That is now solved in the 9000 series AMD CPU’s.

Get the memory maker and speed of your choice and what you want to spend. I would read the motherboard specs to see what memory the board will run. They release the specs and names of the memory modules they have tested and will run on the motherboard. Follow that list unless you want to waste money on memory chips that spec wise will seem to run but are not capatible and will not run on that motherboard. Chances are small but this does happen. So they release lists of tested hardware that works.

Motherboard…look for one that has the AM5 socket obviously.

Axxx clas motherboards, such as the A620 are the basic models with semi limited PCIe lanes. Good enough for a M2 NVMe SSD. The 2280 variety. And good enough for one 16 lane, that wont get used fully though, GPU.

It might have another 1x slot PCIe slot for something else. such as a network card or audioo card The Axxx class is your basic “cheap” model. Something you might buy your little kid who plays minecraft only and does not need to tax the system too hard.

B650 based motherbaord. This is the chipset class that i normally buy. Its the middle. More PCIe lanes available due to the use of B650. So you can mount more M2 SSD since it has way more PCIe lanes available to use. This system is also semi future proof.

They also tend to have more USB ports of the “better” variety. More USB 3 and 3.2 slots. As well as additional USB headers on the motherboard itself that you can use. It is not uncommon now to see 8 or 10 USB slots on the back panel.

In 2017 i bought the b350 MSI gaming motherboard for the first gen Ryzen CPU. I bought a 1500x. I upgraded the CPU for that AM4 platform motherboard 3 times total. So if you give yourself room to grow you save money down the road.

I went from a Ryzen 1500x to a Ryzen 5 5500x to a Ryzen 7 5800x. All on the same AM4 CPU socket motherboartd. The AM4 platform that is now 9 years old.

The motherboard is the one thing i would spend money on. 150 to 200 pounds today will get you a fine motherboard with lots of features. More SSD slots. Better auidio chios that are shielded. Better voltage regulators and mosfets. Better cooling. Most of the time in that range it is very common to see integrade in/out shields for the back instead of the metal shields we used in the past. You dont have to worry about misplacing the metal shield anymore and losing it like we did in the past.

Can you use your old computer case? That will save you at least 50 squid.

OR buy a good solid metal case. Trends are glass side panel or even fishbowl these days.

A case does not have to cost a fortune. I refuse to spend more than 75 on a case and that is asking a bit much even today. I spent 60 on mine last xmas. MSI M100R case. Came with 2 front panel 120 fans already installed and had a built in RGB controller for the LED’s.

Mid tower case. Plenty of room for water cooling if you want. I dont recommend wantercooling at all. You can use water if you want. Just dont come crying to me when it leaks. And leak they all do eventually. And what do you expext from a sub 100 pound fish tank pump? For it not to leak? Do yourself a favor and stay with air cooling. For the CPU i recommended up there air is more than enough.

If you can use your old case you most likely can use some of the old cables and drives.
The DVD drive for example. Save money there. Buy a better GPU.

You can buy Nvidia this time around with the 5000 series but i would not. I am buying AMD 9000 series time time. I am not falling for the fake nvidia frame generation via AI spiel.

Once i have a good case i only upgrade the MOBO, memory and GPU, if i can afford a new GPU. Otherwise i just reuse what i have in old system.

dont be afraid of putting this thing together on your own.

If you are hesitant to do this go to your local computer repair store and ask for old broken hardware that you can use to practice on building a computer of your own. Or ask people for old broken computer hardware that you can use to practice on

It really is simple and not as hard as you think it is. Even the operating system is easy these days. With computer on open disk tray and slide in disk or plug the media loaded USB stick in. Restart the computer and you will be asked what you want to do.

It really is easy and the money you save is significant. It is. You have no idea how much you can get for 2000 pounds. That is almost too much money for a computer unless you are doing graphic design or need a workstation. That is almost over kill for games. It really is.

New AMD 9060XT GPY are just around 350. That will do for games unless you are running 2k resolution and not many are doing that nor have the screen.

Most used screen size on steam STILL is 1080p. I run 1080p and have a 12 GB 3060 from 2021.

So that GPU is roughly 350
150 to 200 on the motherboard
not sure on the DDR5 prices nowadays but lets say 100 for 32GB …hopefully you can get that much ram as 16 is showing its age now
65 for the case.
100 at the most of the gen 4 or gen 5 PCIe NVMe SSD. Depends on what the mobodu will run. Most likely in the 2 TB range as the 2 TB are now hovering at the 100 pound mark.
100 pounds for a new power supply

2TB SSD us not huge but for games that is enough these days.

My DCS install by itself is like 600 gigs. If you are playing wow the install size is just over 100 gigs now. That leaves you roughly 1.8 TB of space for other crap.

865 pounds roughly for a very capable system so far. Lets say 900 and buy some new cables. New SATA cables for the SATA HDD since additional storage is cool to have.

When you get all your stuff together. Read the motherboard manual and follow the instructions. That will get you to install the motherboard into the case. Before you put and screw the motherboard into place using the screws, take a look and see how easy or difficult it would be to install the CPU cooler on top of the slot.

Place the motherboard carefully onto the standouts of the case while it is all laying on its side. Once the mobo in place, put the CPU cooler over the CPU slot and imagine screwing the thing in place.

Are the screws difficuly to get to?

If so then slot the CPU in its place, apply the termal paste and then attach the CPU cooler on top of the slot outside of the case. That will make things easier for you if the CPU and CPU cooler are already in place and read to go. Then just screw the motherbord into plac and the rest is really playing lego.

Alot DDR memory into slots according o how the motherboards wants it. If you only bought two sitcks then they ned to go into a specific slot on a 4 slot system. Find out which slots need to be populated and click them in place.

Attach the M2 SSD into its slot via small screw. Cover with heatsink if you have one.

Slot the GPU into the PCIe slot. Screw into place on the back panel.

Start attaching cables. 20 pin power cable onto mobo. SATA DVD drive into the SATA on MOBO. Audio if you have an older DVD rom drive.

USB slot headers on the mobo to front penl USB slots.

The the fiddly Front panel power connectors. These days it is simple and a standard is bieign pushed asi have seen several generations now use the same pin pattern.

You might have to look at the motherbaord manual as to what pin does what. But its not hard. There are normally 8 pins to attach. But two pins each and they are usualy side by side, are used for one function. The 8 pins serve 4 functions usually:

Power
Reset
LED
HDD LED

I say usually.

The two that will be present and all will be power and reset. Whether the hard disk drive LED will be there is not a given but your motherboard manual will tell you exactly where to place the pins. And the pins from the case to the motherboard will also be labeled so you cant screw this up as long as you match LED+ to the LED+ pin on the mobo. There will be a picture most likely in the motherboard manual. Hard to screw this up.

If on start up the system is still dead then this is the most likely place you need to go back to and check to make sure the pins are on the right one.

This is a alot of text but i have lots of years of experience and dont mind passing it on.

Especially to people who want to buy premade and buit computers.

You are paying them a lot of money for the labour when you can do this yourself.

Once you are up to speed on this you can have a system, a fast one, up and running within an hour from start to finish. It does not take long. Especialyl in a corporate enviroment where the sytems are all the same so you are just repeating yoruself over and over again.

Hope this helps

From what i recall the last few generations of Intel cpus have had some gnarly issues.

As for ultra settings then you probably need the x080+ gpu series or whatever the adjacent amd one is.

Yeah, at most from what i can see where i live. The prebuilds are just that, prebuilt. Only downside is that they might have some restrictions on what brands they are allowed to use in the prebuild. So like no noctua fans if you wanted that even though it’s sold in their store.

True & false.

From what I’ve seen a lot of the websites/companies, who have prebuilts on their website, you can change out pieces and of course you’ll either up the price or maybe reduce it, if they have something in there you don’t like (like an intel CPU).

I’ve only seen a handful of systems, which you can’t change, but those were from stores, which sell a ton of other things, which are not computer related.