Hemotoxin needs removing or Assass Rogue need a 20% damage nerf

Absurdly broken you give a class that was already A+ tier a 40% healing reduction for 9 seconds on a 25 second cd. it’s like you do not test your own game

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Random numbers based on nothing, go !

I mean… let’s be fair here. 40% ms is just too much for assa.

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I don’t get the point of this talent but tbh a lot of stuff are absolutely insane too such as greater MD or judgment dispell.

I don’t think they test anything tbh xD

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Just like every hybrid heals too much. There is most likely a reason why most melees got a MS, or an improved one.

At least this is a bit more even.

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Yes, hybrid healing is too high. But not everyone is a hybrid. They should have nerfed the healing instead.

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Literally this ^

They did like a few months into the patch, but that doesn’t answer for the defensive legendaries or the fact most dps hybrids can still reliably heal through dampening + MS effects comfortably in current game.

People had the cheek to QQ about double rogue. But thats nothing compared to double mage or the hybrid spam we’re likely to see in 2 vs 2 with 9.1

You’re saying that as if this was a bad thing.

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Depends who you ask isn’t it. I can’t see why it shouldn’t be as viable as double druid etc.

Let’s be honest, double or triple sub rogue team was the most frustrating and disgusting stuff.
Using duel to cheese à Guy without trinket with 0 counterplay shouldn’t exist.

When you see the same spec and class stacking it means they are too Op and should be looked at,a lot of example like that aren’t that fun to face like : double feral or boomy with convoke or double ret os with blindihht light etc…

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I mean I get your point, it was disgusting. But then again going off how little covenants have been touched and then you had kyrian rogues literally being booted week 1 to the side walk, I find it hard to find the remorse to spare the idea of why rogues are repeatedly the ones being kicked to the curb first and “fixed later”

Yes they pruned hard MM and kyrian sub but strangely ww or ret for example got 0 nerf while doing the most dmg.

I guess life is unfair.

This is double standards policy.

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I don’t know how you can even take the OP seriously at this point to be honest. He opens so many threads crying about anything he loses to in arena while running around on possibly one of the easiest specs in the game to climb with in S1 stuck at around 2k.

Does that mean other specs aren’t stupid, or have something unbalanced etc? no, but you do have to wonder at this point if he’s just a bot that blames the game for every loss he ever had in arena based on everything he’s complained about. It’s also not like a Warrior doesn’t has a similar mechanic with more utility overall and equal if not more damage than an Assassination Rogue to be fair.

It may be very strong, I don’t know… I haven’t tried much in the new patch yet to know. But I wouldn’t recommend taking anything the OP says about anything balance related seriously based on his post history.

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So we are fighting the Symptom and not the root cause ?

Hemotoxin is ok, but they should add someting so you don’t stack Hemotoxin and Wound Poison => 60% is a bit high and i don’t know for sur but Master Poisoner could also stack for +20% effect so 72% heal reduction …

They do not stack. Don’t talk nonsense. If you use Hemotoxin on a target affected by Wound Poison then the healing reduction of Wound goes does to 0% for the duration of Hemotoxin.

You can also test it with a friend and you’ll clearly see it doesn’t stack.

Somehow half the forum cries about this stacking when it hasn’t stacked for some time on PTR and has never stacked on live.

I am not taking him seriously. It just doesn’t matter who said it, 40% ms is too much. That isn’t changed by who it is said.

He literally cried about ret as well. Also i met him at 2.4k mmr.

I have met some assas during off-season now and then and the damage is completely ridicolous.

It’s not “like”, they DO NOT play test their game :slight_smile:

But it hasn’t changed. Was it ridiculous before aside from the Vendetta MA completely ridiculous burst (which is now à bit nerfed) ? I don’t think it was. Strong, undeniable, but on the same boat as those specs we keep (or kept) seeing every second game at higher ratings, not really.