Here is why you lose to russians and why you leave

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EU play PVE, they dont care about PVP in bgs, they care about fast games, and winning

theyre strat is simple, get towers and rush the boss while avoiding the enemy team. thus forming a snake formation instead of a strong sturdy wall.

The russians on the other hand is NOT even premade, they are just on the same server, making it look like premade,

they play a tanky formation and stick together ALL 40 men, And farm honor on kills rather than on objective, they play the PVP game, and they win because they push people back and when 10+ people is running past them and the others is spread out they get killed …

this is what created the lose condition for the games and many people just leave instantly, it really is a GIT gud issue, how can they develop the same strat every time when you know how it works, you just refuse to do the same

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What is interesting is that russians have played like this since level 60 AV, it is beatable for sure, people just give up too soon and make a post about it.

I know from first hand experience that russians arent unbeatable, if two teams with 40 on each side crash together, epic AV imo. But people today are minmaxing everything and have little time, they rather lose within 10minutes compared to win within 15minutes.

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That’s already quite slow.

Wins within 7-8 min is possible.

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why do you NEED to win that fast in a pvp game, your just playing the pve version, get 2 towers, rush boss. bang that is so boring, and why ppl afk in AV and getting mass reported

your gonna have a terrible time in arena when you realise there is NO timer and no debuff on healing

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They will not go to arena, you silly. Most of PvE abusers are gearing their undergeared alts for their PvE purposes. Others just for easy honor, because even if they are interested in other BGs they are too lazy to get honor the right way via PvP victories.

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I just do PvP for some quick leveling gear in preperation for WOTLK.

And yes WSG is my least favorite BG, Because of the fact that it does not have a timer.

PvP is boring by default, It’s not enjoyable and never will be.

Tho, that might not be conpletely accurate.

1v1 PvP can be fun, But that never happens, Not in BG or in WPvP.

It is always 1v2 or 3 or 5 or 10 or 40.

Never really 1v1

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WSG has a timer though.

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1v1 is not balanced as well and wPvP never will be.

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I remember doing a 1hr 30 min WSG back in 2008 in original WOTLK.

So wsg should not have a timer at this point.

Unlesd they threw out #Nochanges completely and has now changed WSG as well.

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it does have a timer… i just did it, and there is a timer :slight_smile: not sure why your assuming without trying, please get your facts straight on wrath

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YOU should get your facts straight.

I remember doing a 1hr 30 min WSG back in 2008 in original WOTLK.

So wsg should not have a timer at this point.

Unless they threw out #Nochanges completely and has now changed WSG as well.

Now i have not done WSG since prepatch launch, But in original wrath, It did not have a timer at this point.

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yes you edited that earlier. i answered before you edited, it has a timer NOW. stop saying it doesnt ,

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WSG had a timer back in original as well
~https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Warsong_Gulch#Patch_changes
We have patch 3.4 so of course we have the timer.

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its okay, the guy thinks he remembers EVERYTHING from 2008 :stuck_out_tongue:

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Well, That is weird then.

Maybe they added timer in a later WOTLK patch and that is the one we currently have?

Since we do have ICC achivements visible.

Which is also odd.

It did not have it in pre-patch and did not have it from what i remember from Original WOTLK.

I did not know they would add a changed WSG to our version of WOTLK.

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Derailed by WSG timer which we obviously have because the game is on 3.3.5a but with locked content :rofl: :saluting_face:

But the reasons why people leave:

  1. they want fast easy games with little pvp
  2. it is less honor to stay and play through a russian turtle
  3. the queue is fast

Can anyone chime in and speak for how the queues are on russian realms? I would assume russian horde AV queue is 30+ minutes? So of course when they actually get to play, they will try to win

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I dont see the need to play with russians. I dont feel its contructive gameplay to be farmed at the graveyard for 45 mins while being nothing but honor bait for the opposing team, that is healthy gameplay and not how its supposed to be played. I just leave when i see it is russians, but for me its a political protest than anything else. Yes we take towers and then boss, its the fastest way to get honor per hour. I can get 5-6k honor an hour by doing 5 BG in AV each hour. Rather than a 45 min wipefest at the graveyard…

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yes it is but it does not working
game is continuing when timer hits 0:00 kekw

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