Hey Horde... You are playing AV wrong

[Craized-nethergarde-keep]

It’s not going to discourage anyone because even if they are the worst premade they are still better than pug groups.

[Bads-outland]

Ya I havent lost to a Firemaw premade yet, I think

[Craized-nethergarde-keep]

You’re actually wrong here. You get zero honor if the other team kills the captain first. You get nothing, no honour and no rep.

What you’ve probably seen is a case of one of the other lts being killed around the same time and assumed it was the captain.

[Eatmystab-ashbringer]

TS, go AV without premade and show us how to play right vs horde pugs.

[Eldrai-ysondre]

@Pacifista-flamelash

I stopped reading after your calculations at the beginning. Did you pull them out of your u know what?

Same. This guy is totaly wrong. Imagine he think we make 7k honor in 5 hours xD.

[Holystyle-drakthul]

Do you realize HORDE does not give a F about HONOR most if you did not noticed?

[Zakrilege-firemaw]

@Hordeko-stonespine

Killing the enemy Captain still gives +198 Honor even if your own Captain got killed first.

Nice, IF that is the case, then that is a horde only thing since this is very much NOT the case for Alliance.

@Doolist-razorgore

@Zakrilege just answer me this: The alliance premades from the large EU matchmaking pool are at least beating the Russian horde premades, right?

The one I’m in does, and a few others. I know they beat some of the bad premades tho.

@Grizzel-hydraxian-waterlords

Theres two things to really care about , both are obvious for any video game ; winning. And the moste obvious one, having fun!

For my response to this, see next quote…:

@Drayen-firemaw

Maybe he is just sick of all u crybabys on the forum who complain about premades and trying to help u out in your pathetic situation.

@Eldrai-ysondre

Same. This guy is totaly wrong. Imagine he think we make 7k honor in 5 hours xD.

I obviously know you make more than that, but you can’t be denying that most hordes are currently playing in a very suboptimal way for ranking - including rankers.

@Holystyle-drakthul

Do you realize HORDE does not give a F about HONOR most if you did not noticed?

Then be a shepherd to the sheep?

[Dete-mograine]

Alliance losing 80 % of AV’s so they whining and telling Horde how to play hah this is funny.Your math is also very wrong ,Horde gets more honor and wins in 20-30 minutes.This system is perfect and funny how you call 10 man defending out of 40 a “turtle” . Horde is doing great in AV so they will keep playing the best way and the way they like .

[Zakrilege-firemaw]

@Dete-mograine

Alliance losing 80 % of AV’s so they whining and telling Horde how to play hah this is funny.

I’m not losing any AVs mate… I’m just trying to give some constructive criticisism to the animal faction

[Zmugzmug-gandling]

animal faction?.. what exactly is that suppose to mean, gnome harborer?..

[Zakrilege-firemaw]

Have you looked at those cows recently?

[Zmugzmug-gandling]

Taurens are respected, upstanding, smart humanoids you bigot.
jk you got me.

[Healbot-mirage-raceway]

@Doolist-razorgore

We care about the honor. We just care about messing up your honor even more.

Deserves this:

@Mando-dragonfang

Personnaly when im done ranking im gonna organize some cave games. Where alliance captures every single gy on the map then camps the horde cave with 40 players ( its the only place where they can spawn) and aoe farm em for hours . As horde if you enter an av like that, regardless of your queue time, your best option is to afk out XD

I, for one, am looking forward to the delicious horde tears here on the forums when this happens.

[Zmugzmug-gandling]

@Healbot-mirage-raceway

I, for one, am looking forward to the delicious horde tears here on the forums when this happens.

and we’ll certainly be looking forward to the day you try and your expectations are subverted Rian Johnson style.

[Rongo-amnennar]

Turtle all the way

[Holystyle-drakthul]

This guy said it right.

[Hordeko-stonespine]

@Healbot-mirage-raceway

I, for one, am looking forward to the delicious horde tears here on the forums when this happens.

So you stoop to their level, then you try to maintain the moral high ground?

[Healbot-mirage-raceway]

@Hordeko-stonespine

So you stoop to their level, then you try to maintain the moral high ground?

Hardly. Their suffering will be self inflicted. I have no part in that.

There is a massive difference between their gloating and mine. When they have emptied the Alliance casuals out of AV because of their constant SH GY farming and they are having their breakfast served to them in FW by the alliance premades that they created, it will be through no fault or action of mine.

I hope this concept is easy enough for you to understand. Just say the word and I will explain further if it isn’t.

[Rotswithdots-outland]

Premades in AV… ah yes, the epitome of skill, amirite (according to most posters here, that must be the case given their **pseudo-**arguments)? Exploiting, bug-abusing, avoiding PvP alltogether… but hey ofc, putting 25+ organized and coordinated ppl in the same BG means no advantage whatsoever and OFC the horde is capable of using the same mechanism with their 20+ minutes of queue times… OFC!

How silly of us for not utilizing this properly! And on top of all this, OFC the fact that some alliance premades win through “pve brute-forcing” in ~ 7-10 Minutes is solely attributed to the sheer fact of them being the superior players in each and every case! Not at all owed to them assembling optimal setups with enough tanks, healers and the best dps, how could anyone assume that!

I just recapitulated what was stated here in oh so many postings without any self-reflection on the author’s / authors’ part.

Until Big Daddy Blue comes up with a fix for this (and they have demonstrated that they can fix certain issues, like with the warsong queues), the only adequate response to this:

/golfclap
/spit

and just for the fun of it: defend to delay them for as long as possible (which even leads to victories, if they get demoralized / demotivated and leave prematurely - happens quite a lot)

P.S. for the record: what happened in p2 on horde-dominated realms was not ok or defendable / justifiable, just like this “premade versus pug only on horde side” situation is not okay or defendable / justifiable. Simple as that.

[Mando-dragonfang]

Blizzard will never fix av premades, their is no bug