Ofc it doesn’t need meld, that’s my point. It totally changes the spec dynamics.
No class needs meld, it’s busted on everything, especially Druid and Hunter, even Priests.
There’s only one race above 2100 - and it’s night elf.
Maybe, but that’s even more true for Rogue 
Name them.
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Joefernandes, but he does complain about everything so it’s not a good example xD
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Outlaw is beyond powerful and it’s clearly not Shadowmeld’s fault. It’s just one more tool, but not the root cause.
The CDR affecting Vanish and mobility spells, plus the amount and power of said mobility spells, are what make Outlaw so strong.
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even before christmas dear lord bloodlock crys on the forums its brutal
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No its not.
Every rogue can open with garrote, thats the reason why its problematic too, in combination with Shadowmeld and the 3 types of CCs it can use on you → sap > blind > stun > silence. And 3 of them can be repeated.
if the rogue is the target for that person you can also evasion/COS.
These are potentially half a minute of 0 action from that person.
Not because of garrote entirely, but since we are so afraid to break rogues by limiting their CC-ability we could at least remove garrote.
Which is an absolutely fair and grounded expectation.
That’s what I mean, I think that Shadowmeld just throws whatever math Blizz had for outlaw, because meld allows for AR uptime and CD reduction for way more than it was intended via crackshot.
Shadowmeld reduces CD for 1 vanish, which in turn reduces CD for everything else, including 2nd Vanish, which will then reduce CDs for everything again, including 1st Vanish and on it goes until Meld is up again.
There are XMAS discounts for services, I’m thinking maybe I should just reroll Nelf, why miss on the true Rogue potential?
Making every Rogue spec require stealth to do damage - a decision made whilst dance was available to every spec and then removing dance is imo one of the worst design decisions they have done for Rogues ever. The whole “use vanish” offensively design is complete crap.
Ironically, they seem to have succeeded in making specs like Assa work well for M+ though, at the detriment of the design in the rest of the game. Everyone always mentions things like Assa’s dots being broken - like, if they weren’t Assa would be completely unplayable. I think most rogues would take a more BFA style Assa immediately but when the whole M+ design has come in, that’s never going to happen.
Silence imo should just silence only your target and have an ICD. I don’t think silencing from stealth is inherently broken but I’d gladly take a nice nerf to garrote if they stopped every rogue spec being stealth dependent. The difference between playing a NE and a non-NE is already night and day.
I love how they realised they messed up, were forced to up subterfuge to 6s to compensate as a half-way solution and after nerfing tons of CCs in PvP decided for some reason to make stuns like CS/KS obscenely long in PvE for no reason.
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Garrote silence needs to be removed, or severly nerfed. It makes no sense that Assa has access to long duration CCs, silence (and chained reappliance) AND kick all available at the same time.
Hey, sorry for the late reply, i was busy spending christmas with my family, unlike you apparently who literally spends christmas eve on the forum. Same for the Gigaloser who apparently instantly upvoted your personal attack against me (because personal attacks is all you got and even these are bad and don’t reflect the truth ).
So yeah, even on christmas i live rent free in your heads, it’s actually brutal, cringe, creepy and embarrasing.
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Get rid of Garrote silence whilst you’re at it.
You mean your 36 cats?
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So now we can post details pics with any ability being number 1 on damage and QQ about nerfs? Wow, average tick 102k, how to deal with this insane dam 
You do realize every class has a top dam ability? So what if it was Rupture @ the top instead?
I’m now 100% convinced you’re a troll.
Coming in to protect rogue in its current state is actually trolling.
Yea these Low-B Tier rouges are so oppressive and dominating the ladder with their 1.3 - 1.7% representation and 47 - 48 % winrates
wowarenalogs is there for everyone to see, like it’s freely available info for everyone.
Like, whom are you trying to convince? 
Controversial opinion, but rogues are garbage at the moment.
Bugs, stealth barely works, and you can’t survive anything. It’s not very fun to play either, as all the tricks have been pruned from the game.
Rogue can 100-0 me in one cheap shot, how that can be normal to hit 3 mil crits while having immunities and heals at the same time?
Don’t use Deathstalker if you are having stealth problems. Singular focus will keep you in combat if any dot is on any target whilst deathstalker’s mark is on a target.
Wait a minute, have we met before? Are you the new king of delusion on the forums? Did Spheria pass you the crown already?
What statistics are you exactly looking at? Don’t forget, the class you’re searching is a Rogue, so you should automatically look at 2,4+ because that’s where they are. Took me 2 minutes to confirm it is the best performing class in 3v3 alongside with feral by miles.
100 assas rogues above 2,4 in SS doing quite good as well given the ss environment. 1.3 - 1.7% representation and 47 - 48 % winrates where is that coming from?
You making it look B tier playing the actual best spec in the entire game at 1800 with 2k rounds doesn’t mean it’s B tier like what?