High Elves in 12.1 šŸ’™

The racial of void elves could easily be tied to your costumsation preferences. If you make your void elf fair and pale skinned or anything not voidy, you get an arcane visual.

The Draenei Man’ari eredar skin already does this if I’m correct.

For those against this, you then should argue the same for the Draenei.

In addition to that it’s not game breaking in any way, shape or form.

Also the argument of core race flew out of the window. Because other from the name tags you can’t tell the neutral races apart. If you want to argue hairstyles, what about the transmog which give characters hoods. If I was to post a picture of a void elf and blood elf next to each other without the UI on, I doubt you’d be able to tell them apart…

So yes an arcane hue looking alteration for the void elf racial is a nice alternative to actual playable high elves. We can tie it to how you costumise your void elf or as an option via npc/barbershop.

But that’s my 5 cents on it.

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But what if someone wants to look like a High Elf but have Void visuals too?

How you solve that then?

The Man’ari racial is still called Blessed by the Naaru and does the exact same thing as other Draenei and for the same reason, it simply reflects their past as Man’ari even if they are repentant. It is still being blessed by the light.

This request is not the same. It is a request to twist Void Elves into something they are not as a vector for an entirely different fantasy.

I think this was covered with this addition.

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Agree to disagree.
It is because you view it that way. Void elves also have affinity of the arcane as they are blood elven exiles. So it could as well be an arcane hue.

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Whatever affinity Void Elves had with the arcane was obliterated the moment they became Void Elves.

That was kind of the point.

That I did overread and yes, that would be a good solution. Also, would be nice to add Fel-options (also for eyes if not present) as well if you wish to run a Void Elf Warlock…

By that logic we can’t have void elf mages.

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I think that would upset blood elf players. So I won’t ask for something that is core to another race.
Unless you mean the racial proc, I thought for a moment about green eyes.

I misread that :blush:

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No, it isn’t because

1.) It cannot be reconciled with the lore of Void Elves. Besides, you think this would be enough? They will want a nameplate next and to not bleed purple. The only thing acceptable is 100% of what is wanted, and anything else that you are told is ā€˜if we just get this that will be it’ is a lie designed to facilitate incremental movement.

2.) So this ONE race gets to modify their racials to pretend to be a different race? You do realise you are endorsing an entirely new system which every other race in the game will then ask ā€˜well what about us?’. Brave move to volunteer tons more work for Blizzard’s art team with a precedent everyone else can point to.

You are a high elf.

No, I am taking about racials. You are broadening it to classes. Void Elves use the void, but you can also have Void Elf Mages.

In the same fashion light infused Blood Elves can have Shadow Priests. Wielding a power and being infused by it are two different things for the most part.

I don’t know if you are baiting because the position of Blood Elf players for the most part seems to be that that is what you are doing asking for Blood Elves in some fashion on the Alliance, no matter what they call themselves now.

I always thought of Blood Elf Shadow Priests (post Void Elves) as ā€œtappingā€ into the void, without risk of being fully consumed by it.

So like ā€œmana tappingā€ from TBC, but they simply ā€œtapā€ into the void to gain their powers.
I mean, just because an Elf uses the Void doesn’t mean they instantly become a Void Elf…look at the High Elf Shadow Priest who’s body Xal’atath now uses.

That’s your personal take on it.

Like I said it’s not game breaking and I’m happy with my void elf. The racial doesn’t bother me. But if you argue against high elves it would be a good alternative for those that desire it.

I also like to add that adjusting a sprite proc isn’t hard. The alternative would be just allowing them to hide it all together on the model and that would be a simpler solution.

In every conversation I had with you so far you show a bias towards the race. Either you want to completely block the implementation of it or any middle ground you dismiss.

This is not constructive debate but a bias you carry with you.

What I suggest isn’t game breaking as it’s just a visual adjustment for the players that want it and would circumvent the need to add an additional race to the game with its own unique sets of racials and other passives.

I’d be more than happy with more costumsation for all Allied races rather than having more races added.

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Every race in the game can be Priests and some have more difficulty than others in using the twin forces of light and void that Priests can use. I imagine Blood Elves and Lightforged Draenei canonically have great difficulty in being Shadow Priests. Similarly, Void Elves and Forsaken must struggle to use the light.

This is because of their very natures being at odds with the powers they wield.

The middle ground was Void Elves with customisations. You are literally enjoyng the compromise that was wrought and asking for more.

How am I supposed to treat someone enjoying a compromise when they come back later and say ā€˜we need to compromise on this divisive issue!’ even though we just did that.

So please don’t talk of solutions or compromises or middle grounds because it is clear that is not what is sought. What is sought, as I have said previously, is victory. And the fact you are talking of solutions and compromises and middle grounds whilst your character is the product of what should be the accepted compromise is somewhat galling.

I’m not sure Blood Elves would have difficulty becoming Shadow Priests, on their own determination. I think by Silvermoon’s laws, they certainly would…but I think a Blood Elf could easily become and tap into the void’s power, just like a Night Elf Shadow Priestess could.

Lightforged Draenei lore is such a mess at the moment with the whole LFD Warlock…it’s like, down is up, black is white, left is right, north is south.

That should actually be the case. For the same reason that a LFD Warlock is VERY rare in lore, even after their introduction. It is not easy to do for them.

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We know Undead struggle to wield the light, and they do so in pain. By this logic, the two light infused races (lightforged Draenei and Blood Elves) likely struggle to wield shadow magics. Nobody is stopping them, it is just extremely difficult for them based on the previously confirmed precedent.

I am of the opinion Lightforged Draenei Warlocks are incredibly rare and that one needs to be an LF Draenei of incredible willpower to use those magics given they are so at odds with your nature.