No one is taking Arcane mage on high Keys because the Overall dungeon dmg is super low compared to the FOTM classes. How many weeks need to pass until you tweek or revert the nerfs. You want your Mage community to feel trolled or sth? Mages are going to quit all together if it continues this path. Its offensive to have some guy play a fotm class with 10 ilvl under you and beat you soundly in dmg. Where is the balance in that. Are you really that scared in giving us a hand dev team? Or do you simply not care, because if thats the case, i will not be resubbing. Can stand the feeling of being trolled and to be expected to continue paying.
PS. I was considering in gifting you people 78 euros for the mount. But thats never ever going to happen.
I fully agree, i had super fun at the start of season as Arcane however as i am now pushing into 12s and 13s i feel depressed because i know my overall dps will be significantly lower and hindering my teammates and i feel like being carried a little, yes i do great on bosses where i keep up or even top dmg but 75% of the time of a dungeon you fight trash and we are so heavily reliant on cooldowns and RNG that it doesn’t look great and i feel sorry. While other “hybrid” classes baseline does more damage even without cooldowns. So depressing, makes me not even wanna queue for dungeons anymore, i like to challenge myself but i don’t like slowing down my team
This problem would be solved if they just made 2-3 skills exclusively for AOE to each class, so that there was no dependence on procs. Other skills for one target, where there would be such beloved procs by Blizzards. It would immediately solve a lot of problems, including pvp, and it would be easier to balance classes
But no, the game should be like a lottery, you are waiting for a win. Not only that, but without addons you simply won’t see some of the procs :)))
Arcane mage is just dead. They ripped us apart as always.
We don’t do ST or even better prio Dmg then other classes. → Which was our signature and reason to play with. Where is the Point in taking an arcane if most classes do better prio and ST?
We don’t do AOE due to Target cap and proc dependency.
Ok then reroll Spec right?
The other Specs don’t look much better.
Fire has at least great AoE, but does worst ST in the game.
Frost is a hybrid → isn’t great but also not awful at AoE and neither on ST, but still gets outperformt by most classes.
I am currently trying to complete the rest of my missing +14 keys.
Sitting in que simulation for hours over days, with the result of total… wait for it… ZERO invites. The only invites i got is from ppl with a 2700 RIO who never saw a 14 and didnt even compelte a 13. Therefore I dont count them in.
Everyone is aware of the state of arcane mages. Especially in the current version where Enh is just way too strong. There is just no justifiable reason to take Mages atm.
We are forced to play our own keys if we want to play at all.
Where you still feel garbage as everyone is outperfoming you, even if you pop with flawless roations and spymaster packs.
I think the problem is that a lot of mages already left wow retail once they ruined mage with little chance it will get better.
Thats why the mage forum is quite dead with minimum complains.
I have no idea why some classes have uncap AOE and some classes including us limited when on high keys its massively unbalanced when you have to pull a lot of packs
Blizz obviously don’t care about high keys where ppl spend more time then in Raids
oh so its not a ME problem… people evne on my instagram keep flaming me for low dps with 1 mil overall, i swear i sweat half of this in bfa to be top dps as fire, or SL
Welcome to knowing how it feels to not be a mage for 1 time in the entire time mythic + has existed.
You are now feeling the same thing us other classes are feeling the last 8years.
funny i read this exact reply every season, just delusional people always thinking that the somehow hardest class to play in wow is always free rio free glad ez pz pop wings oh wait…
Are you claiming that mage is the hardest class to play?
The originator of the saying about the 3 button spec the originator of the 2button spec?
Fun fact high keys are not gated by the mage class it is not even gated for Arcane.
Arcane is literally doing 1 key level below the highest keys in the world.
There is a total of 14 keys done on 18 in the world and 2 of those 14 keys is done with a Frost mage.
That is funny, and it is objectively not true but it might subjectively be for you.
But ok that means you have zero ability to be objective and it is worthless to talk about any of this with you, nor should any feedback you bring be used as you are not thinking about it.
Mage rogue are the hardest classes in this game i don’t know what you argue about.
Half of mage’s tools are off gcd and requires decisions in nanoseconds and rogue is the most mechanically challenging.Mouseovering a party member throwing a bop is no challenge.
There is no debate here period.
From a lock main.
If this was true it would be higher up on the actions per min.
Only fire is above 57 per min (or more then one action per second.
And fire is at 80 and not even the top 6 of specs in apm.
Having high apm does not mean it is hard to play however otherwise the spammy nature of Fury warrior in the past would make fury warrior the hardest spec in the game even though it was real simple to actually play.
High apm does not mean hard to play it means you have many things you can do while the GCD is happening that makes it easier to play if you know what you are doing.
Mage is the literal originators of the 2 button spec (arcane) it is the literal original 3 button spec (frost)
Hmm doubt it as it gets more and more simplified over time and today’s rogue is not hard.
Though for rogue i have less to say because i have only played rogue doing leveling with it this expansion so far, while mage i have actually played.
Then that you say this contradicts your assessment of why mage is hard as the highest dps rogue spec is one of the lowest APM specs in the game at 50
You say you play warlock no wonder you think mage is hard when you actually have to click buttons compared to warlock.
But that is your subjective option just because you find something hard does not mean it is objectively hard nor does it mean that what you find hard is the hardest to play in the game.
Fun fact based on your own personal criteria the hardest spec in the game is prot paladin at 90apm and they have to do those things also.
Also why do you think i am saying paladin is hard?
i have never said it is hard unlike yourself i play many specs what is fun is the most important thing, and paladin is fun.