Holy paladins OUT of mana, Ret paladins OUT of damage, useless utilities

Hello,

I’ve “mained” this pally you see in the left for almost 15 years.

It never felt so low as healer as now.

In the first years, we often had mana issues, etc. Then you added holy power to the mix and we had less mana problems, but two resources to manage, and it became more difficult to play.

Now we’re OUT OF MANA very often and also we have to manage the Holy power.
Playing a holy paladin is quite the dumbest choice in the game for now.
I cannot main a holy paladin anymore since it cannot even output the needed heal numbers to keep the group alive. The spec has been murdered.

The retribution paladin is the worse DPS in the entire game, having alone its own tier F or something in the most tier lists.

The damage is bad, in order to survive you need to sacrifice your entire damage and use the holy power you barely generate to heal yourself, the kit offers almost nothing to the group, sa basically nobody needs a low DPS that isn’t bringing anything useful into the game. See what the Evokers are bringing to the group and then LOL at paladins.

Paladins in Dragonflight are A BIG FAIL Blizzard. I will not even starts on the Protection spec, since I didn’t play protection lately and I cannot express a personal opinion.

I hope you’re aware of this. Whoever managed the paladins beta for Dragonflight I hope will find a better job somewhere else and let someone who actually knows something about the class to take care of it.

I’m very upset and I’m quite unwilling to play Dragonflight in this conditions.
I feel sorry for having paid in advance the game time and the most expensive Dragonflight game pack.

PS: I have tried many alts and I still love the paladin. That’s it. I will not play anything else, so don’t even try suggesting it. I don’t have time to play 10 alts. I have time for one and I play what I like, not what is meta.

The fact that Blizzard knowingly destroyed some classes and specs is telling everything about the care about some of their customers.

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and that’s very good that you say that. because I didn’t pre-order DF. I’m not crazy!
and sometimes i just like to refuel and heal. healing is mindless at the moment because other classes have it much easier and are much better at it! I’ve also tried other classes and it’s amazing what good spells they have…

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Well, well, well.

I play since 2005, been playing ret since 2006. I hardly ever used the forum to speak out, but I will make an exception today.

I played through all expansions.

Now this garbage again. Will not waste my time. I will just skip this expansion, until we see a patch that makes ret paladin viable.

Bye

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It’s not too bad I feel. I’ve healed a couple of m0’s and I’m pretty much undergeared and they all went fine. Yeah we wiped a few times but that was mostly due to trial and error on boss tacs. So far I’ve done 5 dungeons this way and I was never oom.

What playstyle are you using to heal? Hard casting vs melee healer makes a big difference I feel. I’m a melee heal with CS resetting the CD on Holy Shock and only when I can’t be in melee and have to hardcast I see my mana bar draining.

Have healed a couple mythics and never once ran out of mana. Dont think i ever went below 50%.

Maybe you are using your abilities wrong?

Also as ret only time i ever got below 90% mana is when i spam flash of light to heal myself up.

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We have yet to see Ret in M+, but at least for now I don’t feel my DPS is that bad. I believe there are worse offenders.

However, warlocks ans DHs out-DPS us by a bunch of miles.

I think ret paladin could be way more viable if they returned some mechanix like the Sacred Shield from cataclysm with its effects and the instant flash of loght/ exorcism for a blade of justice crit for example. Given all, shield od paper is not too beneficial of a wall. And speaking of bubble, the meta are usually every classes that can remove it within a second ( priest has the 0.5 sec MD again) so its kinda useless. Paladins feel too sqhuisy for a class that was designed to tank damage.

As for holy, I have this feeling for many expansions. You either heal like crazy during cds but without you get oom within a minute. Paladins have really been served injustice

I have absolutely no issues what so ever with the spec. It’s by far the healer i prefer, and i have no issues with mana or keeping people alive - it’s the opposite actually.

Holy pala healing and mana is horrible! Worst healer since forever.
reroll to rogue. survive like a tank. heal like a healer. also 1 shot people and have the best toolkit plus cc in the game while others get nerfed. enjoy

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