Keep hearing bad things about it.
BM is pretty much fling a few arrows and let the pet do the work.
Survival ppl keep saying its complete trash in comparison to other melee.
MM sure got some buffs, but seems in a bad position aswell?
I mean, what is there to like about hunter then? Would i be better of going for a Shaman instead? (Seems like a cool class aswell now for dragonflight)
I’m at a loss here, dont want to spend time on a class that ppl say is bad
MM absolutely pumps damage.
Sure it got nerfed a bit, but then it got buffed a bit.
BM is a banger right now.
Sure you “fling a few arrows” and “let your pet do the work” but you shoot barbed arrows into your target, you command your pets to claw, scratch, destroy your enemies + you have 2!
Survival was completely broken for 1.5 year in Shadowlands, it is deff viable in DF but more towards the middle pack off DPS.
Hunter all in all is and will always be good.
Ppl saying this are idiots.
They’re idiots because they think if their class isn’t nr1 it’s trash. That’s not how it works.
What isn’t there to like?
The only downside is, the class brings zero to your raid group.
In my opinion the most boring class design in the entire game.
Totally not my cup of tea.
Im just worried tbh, i am debatting between shaman and hunter. But i cant decide because of all the rumors/tierlist and the general stomping on survival.
I like both classes but got time for only 1
Rumors are worthless.
2-3 weeks into the season that is when you can “kind off” see descent dps rankings appear, untill then they’re all talking out off their behind for “content”.
(MarcellianOnline calls MM and BM hunter A-tier btw)
Just play what you think you’re going to enjoy the most.
Both classes bring little to the raid group, both classes bring a BL to the M+ group.
So they’re very similar…
Only difference is, Ele shammy is blasting M+. BM/MM is blasting ST.
I play survi hunter in pvp and prefer it over mm. I believe mm can do better damage than survi but I just like the playstyle of survi better. Imagine it beying like a cunning, agile warrior who use its wits to outplay its opponent. For example, you dont want to engage with a warrior or monk into a straigh melee fight where you have 2 melee skills only and after flanking strike you can only spam moongose bite. First you need to weaken him from range, trap and kite a bit and then close the gap when you have advantage.
I know people say that hunter is bad but even with survi I can be top 1 on the bg with kills and top 2 in damage.
Hunter is pretty good bg-wise. Im always in top kills and dmg with my mm. It was bad after it was nerfed several times but few last buffs made it very good in terms of smg. Survability blows but its not such a problem on bg. But you will see it on arena.
This is kinda like a paradox.
If you ain’t in the 1% of player base doing the absolute top end content competitive this won’t matter to you. And if you are in the 1% you wouldn’t need to ask this kind of question.
BM is easy to pick up and do casual content with, especially since you have your own personal tank, but it’s hard to master. A ‘LOT’ of basic(bad) players choose the spec because of this. Encountering a bad BM player in group content is common.
The idea that you send your pets in and they do all the work is nonsense. If you do that the damage from the pets isn’t even worth mentioning. You have to maintain short buffs that are activated by your skills to make thier damage relevent and most of thier damage is from Kill Command which you activate. DPS meters and logs will say a lot of the damage is from your pet’s own attacks, which is why people that don’t really know how BM works will say the pet does all the damage, but the only reason those attacks did so much damage is because you kept up the required buff stacks and juggled your other skills between that properly.
By hard to master I mean, unless certain mechanics make it impossible, keep 100% uptime of 3 Barbed Shot stacks and Beast Cleave, both at the same time in aoe situations, whilst using your other skills to the max too. Some people consider this impossible. It isn’t but the fact people think it is just proves that it’s hard to master.
You are also able to master constantly attacking whilst moving, since BM is able to do that. When everyone else has to stop DPSing to stay alive, you can keep going. If you can’t master the previous thing, this one is what will push you up on the damage meters by the end of a fight. Practice a lot outside of group content before trying it if you decide to give it a go though. It helps to have a lot of mouse buttons so your mouse can do all the attacking and your other hand mostly does all the moving.
Its an amazing Roleplay class.
Outside of that, memes.
Lol, says the lizard boi 
the fact that you think BM is hard to master tells me you don’t really know what you’re talking about.
on topic. I suggest you don’t simply dismiss survival as being melee because in pvp it really isn’t a full melee (or can’t be for that matter). you have to weave in melee strikes when you know you won’t die but generally survival has always been a mix between melee and range, where in Shadowlands you almost stayed range 95% of the time.
Unless you can show me you can do the things I said, silence.
I would rather play a spec with some depth (survival, that is) instead of touching a 3 button spec. so sorry gonna have to disappoint you there. BM is and has always been a spec for newcomers and people that want something easy to play (nothing wrong with that). but don’t make it look like it requires a brain to play.
Ok, so you can’t do it. Thanks.
The skill range between an avarage player and someone who mastered the class is really large in terms of bm. Yes, Bm seems to be go to spec for newcomers but if you think about your barbedshot stacks, staying at 3 stack as much as possible, using all the value of beast cleave with right multishots etc. Not wasting barbed shot procs and using the bestial wrath in the right time ( actually always but without losing any bs stacks) … all these must be considered when you talk about 3 buttons…
I personally think that survival hunter is the most complex of the spec and needs a lot of thinking about when to engage/when to keep your distance. You cant just jump in and start trading blows and pray fot the best, that will get you killed. But its also rewarding when you win 
I’m fond of my little MM hunter, regardless of the doom and gloom outlook for damage fall-off in higher keys and longer boss fights. Just the spec that feels right to me, at least for the dps role.
MM hands down is my Ranger fantasy, I don’t like having pets and I like to kill my enemies from afar, MM Hunter for life.
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