Horde Darkshore in 8.1

Maybe ships are faster and more secure, since Ashenvale and Darkshore must be swarming with NE guerilla fighters.

Probably because the Night Elves controlled the waters around Teldrassil during that time.

That doesn’t make much sense anyway, because neither Teldrassil nor the Exodar would be a good route to ship azerite to Stormwind, so I guess they went with the option that would shock more people, because lets be honest: Pretty much no one cares about the Exodar.

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That and blizzard irrational haterd for undating tbc content.

^^ I think this has more to do with the fact that updating the Exodar has very little value to the game as a whole.

It has been asked for(along side silvermoon) for years.
Just like we have been asking for years to rebuild gilineass and gnomergan.

If blizzard would accauly spend the money it is getting from subs into fixing the bugs( black fanthom deep rope still doesnt work) and updating the zones it woudnt feel like they keep ripping us off.
I mean we have to buy the expension so they cant use that as an excuees where the money goes.
Because it sure isnt going into wow.

Well, I’m reluctant to say it, but there’s probably another reason why this happens in the night elf areas and nowhere else.

To say the least, this reason is related to the ability that only the night elves have so far proven. They can heal corrupted places, turn them into fertile land again, even deserts spoiled by demonic magic have been re-planted.

I think - as unfortunate as it is to look at - this presentation is also a rework of the world I expect after BFA, again. And the night elves when the horde have expelled would not have a single threat, there would be no real quests left, why? There is nothing left to do in the areas except “Build X, Plant Y!” So Blizz Conent creates for the future “Clean Spoiled Creature X, Heal Zone ZZ” and the Night Elves have even managed to cleanse the Scourge Corruption, which went a lot deeper, literally rotting everything.

Seems I misunderstood your post then; but I still don’t think you can call Argus a Alliance-patch… because of the amount of “Alliance”-heroes.

Its not like we can help it Blizzard loves to shove human potential everywhere and decided to make Turalyon High-Exarch of a Draenei faction… And have Khadgar pop his head into everything.

Also Illidan hasn’t counted as Alliance hero… Ever? If anything he’s both an Horde and Alliance hero. And he was more Demon then Night Elf anyways :wink:
(Thats what I have been hearing since WarIII, anyways)

And I swear Malfurion isn’t our counter to Thralls flipflopping allegiances. Its Velen who went from Alliance to Neutral to Alliance to neutral to Alliance again, I suppose?

Malfurion went from neutral to Alliance due to the War of Thorns.

Also for Elune’s sake I want them to make the Underhold the Mag’har base! D:<

Also I think we, the Alliance can only get the Kodo from brewfest, like you guys can get the Ram from Brewfest.
And soom you can get awesome Nightsabers like us! You could even RP it as your old mount from your Kaldorei years

What happened there was Blizz made recolours of the Horde rep mounts available BoE to both factions via drops on the Horde island. Alliance have to grind several different reps to get various horse recolours, whereas Horde can buy their rep mounts off the AH.

Of course, if you’d like Blizzard to make the 97845 horse variants available via BoE for the Horde I’m sure we could get a petition going.

I think time is the issue here and not money… Should they design Nazjatar and the new raid or should they revamp Silvemoon? I’m sorry to say, but Silvermoon has absolutely no value beyond a very small minority of RPers…

Look it’s not that simple… You can’t just take 1 million dollars, throw it into a machine and a brand new Silvermoon comes out of it… You pay your workers and they design it for you, which takes a lot of time.

And they are asking a monthly few of (previously) million subcribers.
Given that there biggest selling point was(and with classic will be again) the WORLD of warcraft you would think they could afford updating it.
After all the problem we have now is because the world has become a minnor discration from the raids.
No other mmo has made a world like blizzard had.
Eve online is all stars and planets no seas, mountians, etc.
Alot of mmo’s wont allow for swimming or flying.
They are focusing on raids to the point there driving away all the none raiders.

Umm, No, I more mean over the entirety of WoW. I mean -every- Horde racial mount has been made available to the Alliance with the exception of the Goblin Trike. Was more what I was meaning.

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Can we maybe recognize that there is a flawed expectation here. Night elves, while powerful, are a single race (consisting of one military and one, up till terror of darkshore, pacifist faction), the Horde is near a match for the Alliance as a whole. A united Horde will crush the Night elves on any battlefield, any day.

These are the facts of the numbers involved.

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That’s fair criticism which I can support to an extend. But for that happening, they would have to change up major game design and content placement. Visually upgrading a zone sadly won’t make it more relevant.

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It has nothing to do with time nor money. They could even hire some fans to do it for them, I’m sure there are enough qualified people who’d love the opportunity.
They simply don’t care. One bit.

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Yes it has

No they can’t out of various legal and quality reasons.

They would if there was a major demand for this. But there isn’t.

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Considering the only big advantage the Nelves ever have when it comes to fighting the Horde on their home turf -is- the forest and how it protects them, it makes all sense to torch, pillage and blight it to the ground.

Sound tactics if you ask me. By turning Darkshore essentially into Ground Zero, Nelves will only have one staging ground into Kalimdor (With Zoram strand being under horde control) through Feathermoon Stronghold, which occupation is uncertain at the moment.

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In this reply I’m talking about how Night Elves are presented to us constantly as masters of guerilla combat in the forests of northern Kalimdor, but they’ve yet to win a single battle there on-screen.

I wouldn’t expect them to beat a united Horde, but I’d expect the Night Elves to take a toll on thgeir attackers. They never, ever do. Even when it’s just a couple of races rather than the Horde in sum, the Night Elves suck and fail.

The Night Elves have never been pacifists, nor have they ever been presented as such.

All racial mount species exist in neutral varieties available to both factions - except Goblin Trikes, although those are poorly implemented and look silly anyway so you can keep them. There’s a discrepancy in BfA mount availability, but as far as I can see there’s no wider point to be made. Other than the BfA stuff we’re pretty equal when it comes to mount availability.

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The thing with the Night Elves is…

It makes sense for them to be losing, they haven’t evolved their combat at all, they are still doing archers and druids and killer trees.

While everyone else has evolved to zepplins and bombing runs and mechs.

They are like an army in civilization that is two upgrades behind at this point.

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Nah, that’s because the whole might of the horde attacked some apprentice sentinels & druids. The army of the Kaldorei was in Silithus at this point. The Kaldorei showed us at this point that their culture is stronger then the mechs & other stuff. They showed their beautiful & deadful magic. They showed us their big advantage in their lands. It was only cause of the much bigger army of the horde.

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They just lack common sense really.

“The Horde are massing up their army to invade Silithus, a desert which will give the Horde huge logistical and supply problems if they try to move their entire army to the south. Furthermore if they send so many forces down south we can just threaten/take Azshara, North Barrens and Orgirmmar if they want to use Azerite for mass destruction against the will of Magni, the speaker of the Titan”.

But naaaa lets send our elite forces south on ship leaving ourselves virtually defenseless at home even before the Horde moves out of Northern Barrens… That makes perfect sense.

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Hey that the fault of Anduin & Tyrande. Tyrande gave the contro of their army to Anduin. That’s why Anduin said to Sylvanas that he is responsible for those who have burned.