Horrific visions a step backwards

I still tend to just ignore it, can’t make much use on alleria and pulling big in cathedral means there’s lots of swirlies to avoid with multitudes.

Can’t wait to get mask of the nemesis next week, that’ll make visions 10x easier.

If you’re high ilvl, it’s basically a joke. You go in and crush everything and then you’re left wondering why the hell they even bothered with it. The real slap in the face is that they still timegate it. They had to throw in that classic Blizzard move didn’t they? Timegating content to artificially stretch things out because, Blizzard just hates their players. they can’t help themselves.

If you really think that this is true…just quit already? Stop putting yourself through the misery of playing a game which is aimed to hurt you, as you put it. Stop your subscription and say farewell to Blizzard.

Otherwise I would recommend to actually watch some talks with the high designers / directors of Blizzard. It’s not all as simple as “they do this because they hate us”. I mean…who do you think they make this game for? … right, us. And for when? Well, for now. There’s no tomorrow if there’s no today.

But “us” is a broad group of players. And quite often they just cannot please them all at once. That’s just a fact. And whoever doesn’t understand this concept kind of needs to realize that the world doesn’t revolve around them, they’re just one of many. Don’t like it? Vote with your wallet.

I already voted with my wallet long time ago, stopped the subscription grind a stopped feeding Blizzard’s greedy cash machine

But you’re still invested enough to be on the forum?

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The mentality of gamers now in comparison to 19 years ago, my wife and I prefer to do Delves with “our” young kids, who don’t stand a chance if making a wrong move, and get kicked in normals and even timewarped. The are not native english thus needs some explanation in their native language, and just love colors and “blings” - and together with “oldies” like my wife and I.
No flaming, no sudden votes for kick or whatever (except from me, coz I maybe a more addicted player). So I totally agree with TAH - and Delves gives the option to scale the difficulty with our toons, what the follower dungeons unfortunately cannot, so the only way to improve are via Vault og Bounty loot, and we set Delves after level, so we at the end can succeed. And no stress or sad kids anymore, (The kids are 14 and 12 and are not at all used to computergaming, as they are not allowed to at home at my wifes sister). We use WoW for teaching english and use of mouse and keyboard ^^

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HV is one historic feature I can well do without.

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So if your 640 alts could do 2 mask 1st week i believe your 681 ilvl main could do easy 5 mask …

Things that never happened …

Meh…the first 2-3 masks barely change how the visions go. With a bit of decent gear you prob have 2 charges left when reaching the final boss.

Then the -50% sanity mask comes in, and everything changes. You need to time the elites properly, have a bit of luck with the vials, and overall be quite fast.

The -50% sanity one is more difficult/limiting than the other 3 combined.

They do really do the worst of the previous expansions and show how big of a leap forward that blizz has taken with delves

Delves are genuine progression, with their own tools, layouts, bosses with actual mechanics, interactive things like your abilities, various mobs, and then the pinnacle content of the ?? boss of each season.

Visions are just a bunch of target dummies with affixes slapped on them, completely non-content at 0 masks, and super punishing for reason largely disconnected from the actual gameplay at more masks, just “LE MOB DO 1000% MORE DMG XD” or “sanity is zapped away instantly with one overlap”, the stuff that made a lot of content before bad, just like how they reworked affixes in M+ since people ended up playing the affix rather than the dungeon

Delves are fun, this is not

Me getting the 1st mask with -50% sanity :smiley:

Well Delves sure feel more varied. Back in BfA when you could do only few Visions per week it wasnt this bothersome but now they quickly get stale. I would prefer if we could just pick wheter we want to run SW one or the Org. Running same instance with same affixes over and over again get boring.

Still is a content that is focused more fore casual than the elite-one , still punish way more both in rewards and difficulty .

You can see on every topic .
People with 675-680 say-its easy
People from 620 even 650-660 they have quit a lot of hard .

Yes ,that’s how it supposed to be . Gear matters.

But when the rewards and difficulty negate the whole content .

My alt’s is 647(also severals650~) ilvl and the only benefits would be doing a 4 or 5 mask …
Right now is impossible and basically i must wait the 4 weeks time-gate .

It’s a bad design since it make people unable to play as they should and more that is a mid-way content with time-gate rewards …and progress that at this point is a really dumb release.

That is exactly the impression and also my experience.
And yet, you’ll see or get remarks about others running 3 masks on their 640 alts…

I’m struggling on this 664 Protection Warrior. Umbric in particular feels very unfair for melees without any movement boost whatsoever. It’s a bit easier on my 657 BM Hunter, but for whatever reason I’m not getting the damage I would expect and still fail to complete the run with a single mask.

Meanwhile, I’ve spent quite some time on this (unlocked two of those Tribute Thingies) and I feel pretty frustrated. Because in terms of rewards, this is a complete letdown. I’d actually have to run 5 masks to get something out of my efforts, and it seems that might only be realistic in two weeks when the hourglass is fully unlocked.

So, particularly when considering the difficulty, what is the purpose of this, why should I run this if I am not interested (at all) in the mounts?

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Except my 680 main is a priest and priests suck at this, and the 5th mask is SIGNIFICANTLY HARDER than the first 4. If we had access to different masks last week I could definitely have done 5, but multitudes with vengeance and without nemesis is awful for a spec like this.

Warrior Paladin and DH though? Run through grab everything burst it down rinse repeat.