Housing: Staggered / Smart / Selective Instancing

It’ll certainly be an interesting concept, imagine you can select what kind of Biome you’d like to have ; Orcish, Thalassian, Taurahe, Stormwind in the sense of architecture, and environmental in the sense if you want to adopt Elwynn’s forest variant, or Eversong, or maybe something gloomy from the Tirisfal, and choose accordingly, imagine, even mix & match.

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All these wild ideas people have about housing, its gonna be a disaster, when they impliment this feature, the ammount disappointments is gonna be crazy.
I wouldn’t dare to expect housing to be anything more than a slightly more customizable garrison.
Id rather be surprised than disappointed, lower the expectations.

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that is probably what it will be .

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That sounds wishful - at least the upgrading part.

I suspect it’s going to be like in ESO, but worse lol.

I have no wishes for this, so… :yum:

But it would be my conservative guess. Blizzard haven’t really introduced any new technology (to my awareness) since the Garrison, with regards to base-building, so I can only imagine they’ll use what they relied on for The Garrison, with some improvements here and there.

And I’m sure Blizzard will frame the feature as a “foundation to build on”, so they can present a grandiose vision for it, whilst at the same time release it with a limited scope. So houses can have lots of different locations around the world (though it’ll launch with a limited selection) and there can be many different styles of buildings (though it’ll launch with a limited selection) and various ways to upgrade them into bigger versions (though it’ll launch…you get the point).

I feel like that’s Blizzard’s current approach to these evergreen features. Delves and Warbands are good examples. Just release them as a framework to improve upon and develop further, and then give yourself unlimited time to do so.
I think they’ll do the same with Housing.

Ion said on the taliesin episode that was woe fully short about player housing.

But he said that blizzard knows how late in the game they are about player housing. And that it has to stand on its own in todays mmos

Ion often says a lot without saying much at all.

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There are numerous good reasons why housing can only really be instanced… Aside from the obvisous things like 2 players building on the same site, it´s also a hure resources and database issue…

Just imagine…

20k players /erver, each with one house…ok, sounds manageable…

All of which have, even in the most simple concepts that would not be flaming dumpster fires, hundreds of options and as a result thoussands to millions of possible combinations. And are, worst case because the community just loves to troll, potentially located in the same spot or at least relatively close proximity.

And all of that data has to be constantly pre-loaded and updated in real time foe everyone in the zone, even thouse far enough away to not see it yet? 0.o

Next Blizzcon speech: “Do you guys not have government sponsored supercomputers?” :rofl:

Well from that alone. Id say they are aware what they are up against at least. And what they have to do.

How and what we end up with i do not know.

Sure.

But even if you start a hypothetical thought experiment where Blizzard aren’t limited by resources or time, you still end up with the result being something not too far from The Garrison.

And it’s not because of what the fantasy of housing is, but what the reality of World of Warcraft as a game is.

Most ideas just don’t fit the game, even if Blizzard had all the time and manpower in the world available.

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I think you might be a little too grim too quickly. Blizzard knows what player housing they are up against. And what players are anticipating out of it at this point.

Surely they can’t mess this up -that- bad.

I don’t think anything I said was grim. Was it? What I’m basically saying is that Blizzard will release something reminiscent of The Garrison in concept and scope that they’ll continue to develop and improve upon post-launch.
That by itself would be a gargantuan evergreen feature for a World of Warcraft expansion that would come hot off the heels of the current one.

Imagining the Housing feature to be way beyond that in size and scope seems more like wishful thinking to me. And there’s nothing wrong with that. I think the teaser trailer being so vague, and Ion likewise, is partly because Blizzard wants to see the playerbase hype the feature up through their own hopeful imaginations. It’s free PR.

I don’t think disappointment is going to be an issue, because just like Delves and Warbands, then Blizzard will frame Housing as something to further develop and improve upon. And that tends to satisfy players.

I just think that calling this garrison+ More or less… Is a bit bad faith. Since blizzard has said them selves they know how late they are to player housing. And what players anticipate.

I think it will be more than garrisons+

I only use The Garrison as a frame of reference, because there isn’t much else to draw comparisons to.

I mean, I could also just describe it as instanced pre-determined locations with different geography where players can choose between different styles of pre-assembled houses that can be upgraded to bigger and fancier buildings, or extended upon with more rooms.

…Which is like The Garrison. So it’s just easier to say that. And I don’t think there’s anything negative about mentioning The Garrison. Why would that be frowned upon?

And I don’t think it’s in bad faith to talk about the feature like this when Blizzard themselves have only presented it in vague terms, exactly so that players could talk and speculate about it. If Blizzard are interested in guiding the discussion in a particular direction, then they can simply reveal more details about the feature.

I assume there will be a Housing Neighbourhood with loads of houses and some other facilities (bank, portal room, flight master between housing districts (lots of houses).

But that inside the houses will be private (with invitations to enter similar to Garrisons).

So players would be able to have a garden or other customisations outside to show-off to others and a private inside area for their own customisations.
Two types of customisation.

Yes, yes, they all say that.

>:]

Ehhww…

That’s the advantage of being Pandaren - no sweat!
That’s how having fur works, right?

Right?

pants like a maniac

Me neither, but I was referring to this perspective of “if we’re going to have it, then…” and the wish is for this amazing thing.

I think they’ll do ESO but worse, which is incidentally very much like what you describe. Single house garrisons all over the world. Anyone can own them, even as the same time. You just get instances. Invite to your party to have them over.

I think the neighbourhood style is better. Similar to how ffxiv has it. You become friends sieht your neighbours and adds some social aspects to the game which wow is totally missing outside of everyone’s bubble.

What if my neighbours hate my raging parties and they’re rude people?

Pity. I read garrison and I get all excited. I personally would love the option to retain my garrison but have it fully customisable to what I want. Example let me remove some of those building permantly and let me extend the garden area. Let me shut the mine up and but let me keep my herb garden (as cosmetic ofcourse).

Inside I want to keep the room that displays all my archeological discoveries but let me choose which ones I want on display and from which expansion. I want to keep my all my monuments but let me decide where they stand and give me the option to add more or change them if I choose so.

So yea I am personally happy to keep my garrison I just want it to be customizable to my taste and I don’t care if it remains in Draenor or if I can pay a Kirin Tor mage to move it the so be it.