How are druids in 8.2.5

Hello!
I’m leveling a druid as you all can see and I have never played a druid before but I have always wanted a druid at max level because they look cool and are always good to have imo.

I just wonder if they are good right now.

How is guardian druid as a tank?

How is feral/moonkin in pvp and pve?

Is resto druid a good healer?

Im planning to play as every spec so I just want your opinions and thoughts on the druid because you know more than me.

Thanks for all answers!!!

My answer will be biased because my main is Druid, I always have been playing one, always have liked Druids and always have levelled my feral / boomkin to max in each expansion. I have been everything but tank so can’t comment on a tank but I believe I can answer your other questions. Also, I don’t do arenas so other might need come and comment on that.

In BfA, it almost all depends on your gear not your class whether you are “good” regardless of PvP or PvE and druids are no exception. With well optimised gear, stats, azerites and and essences, you will be able topping dmg in raids or kill everything in PvP. However, Druids have an extra factor, mobility, which I like the most and which saved me a lot; If you use potions, you can become quite a badass :slight_smile: Healers are also in very strong position in both PvP and PvE. I can totally recommend to level one.

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Depends on what you want to play.

Balance is one of the best ST specs right now, especially good for raiding.

Feral is unfortunately bad on ST and raiding, but if played correctly it can be good in mythic+ (however only on fortified weeks).

Guardian is fun to play, it can be good in mythic+ if played right up until you reach 19-20 keys. After that, it’s basically only warriors and monks.

Resto is not really good for raiding atm, it has mana issues and the azerite traits don’t work so well in raids as for other classes. For dungeons however resto is bis and unmatched, meaning you can easily get into groups with a resto druid.

Regarding PvP, I have next to no clue, other than that Resto is also very good there.

Great in lower keys, fine up until 18+ I would say, then poor. Ish.

Feral is ‘meh’ in basically all situations, Balance is really good in most.

The strongest M+ player in almost all situations. You’ll be ok in raids at best.

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Welcome to the master class!
I agree with some, and disagree with some of what’s been said here.

Resto? Yeah absolutely, it’s the meta healer in m+ and pvp right now. Super strong.

Feral? Most people think it’s bad, it’s not actually bad it’s more that not many people can play it to it’s full potential. I know a feral druid who is topping meters both in m+ and mythic eternal palace. But for every one of those players there are probably 200 bad ferals. In pvp they aren’t really bad either but they are held back by the fact that they only work in a very limited variety of compositions in 3v3. In 2v2 they are totally fine.

Guardian and balance I have less experience with. But even as a healer/dps player I managed to tank a +12 key the other week. So they are playable but their weakness is probably magic damage mitigation.
And balance…hmm yeah I don’t really play laser chicken at all so Im not gonna say anything about that. Why be a big fat chicken when you can be a cat? :smiley:

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Balance druid:

Raid - Good on bosses where it is little movment, bad’ish on heavy movment bosses like Queen. They are very squishy tho, so prepear using global cooldown on selfheal, or staying in bearform, instead of dps’ing at times.

Mythic+ - Mediocre, as most ranged. Really bad aoe, starfall is nerfed to non-existing damage. (No idea why they don’t remove the spell already). Little bit better on higher keys because our dots can tick. Tho you spend all your time on dotting away or rooting the emisaries, so you can’t really dps anyways. Trees is good if you have non-meta tanks, like blood dk. Close to useless if it is a warrior.

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There are 4 Balance Druids on the top 10 best runs done to date in M+. We can’t call them mediocre - 1 sham, 1 mage, 1 priest in that same top 10 and that’s all the ranged. They are a ‘good’ spec, who can occasionally excel.

I do agree that feral is extremely high skill-capped at the moment, but even so, their kit and built in damage, as well as the lackluster traits, make them not really good. In my mythic guild we do have a feral who has played feral for 15 years or so now, he is really good, but nowhere near as high dps as the balance druids, mages, warriors and dhs.

All around solid class, Resto is good in every form of content, especially mythic +.
Feral is decent in PvE and PvP but requires a lot of work for it to shine, very punishing for new players, requires a big time investment to get used to the rotation, performs slightly better in PvP than PvE in my opinion. Balance is a good caster with one of the best caster ST dmg in PvE, its an all around good pick with decent AoE, not that good comparable to most classes. In PvP balance is below average, It could work but not preferable if you’re aiming at higher ratings.

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Glad to see there are people here who has taken the actual time to learn Feral before spewing the typical nonsense about “Feral being bad”. :slight_smile:

Feral is one of those specs that are “broken” if not geared correctly and if not played correctly, but with proper gearing (and if a person can overcome the high learning curve) it becomes very good.

Other Classes
“Whatever” gear = average DPS
“Good” gear = good DPS

Feral Druid
“Whatever” gear = broken/unplayable DPS
“Good” gear = good DPS

But hey… As long as people keep thinking Feral is bad, we don’t see an overflood of them running around :stuck_out_tongue:

If you ask whether you should go “Feral or Balance in mythic+”, you will do much better using Balance in most cases, but we will see how long that lasts after Balance gets nerfed next patch :slight_smile: Balance has in general been in a OP spot most of the expansion, whereas Feral had to claw its way up (claw… get it) through buff after buff.

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I am a feral main and im pushing between 18-19-20 keystones and im raiding mythic as feral.Feral is really good but really hard to optimize and manage , its 3x harder to manage than the meta class , if you will do your rotation wrong you will be bottom dps it is really punishing but once u master it its really good ,i wasted hours of sleep studying logs and what i did wrong and what traits or essences i need for PVE , i have no clue about feral pvp side but all im going to say in short " if you cant handle putting hours of sweat and tears into the spec dont bother" if you dont like challenging and punishing specs dont touch it and play boomy.

for all those people saying feral is “Bad” :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZEJMfTa0V8

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Hi mate,

Last time I played Druid before BFA was in WoD during the Shirvallah days. I had to have a Feral druid and because of this talent I actually made one. It was so cool, I got to almost 2K rating after a few weeks of trying and I loved druid.

Then they removed the talent and I stuck to other classes (like my Ret pala main).

PvE Feral
Now 2 weeks ago I decided to give my druid a chance again and I read everywhere that it has a high skill cap, in general low DPS for PvE but decent enough if geared and played correctly. I’m still not used to my rotation for Mythic+ and I make mistakes. Making a mistake on a ret pala or a warrior (if that’s even possible) doesn’t matter much. On a Feral druid, a mistake costs you a lot of DPS. You need to time your +dmg buffs like Bloodtallons and Tiger’s Fury right before you put on your bleeds (which you need to spread to other mobs as well). You need to do your rotation perfectly to make a chance to keep up with others. I don’t enjoy Feral in PvE as much as I enjoy my Pala, Warrior and DH.

PvP Feral
For me this is where Feral shines. Feral is insanely good in 1v1 and 2v2. You have crazy dots, nice burst dmg with Incarnation/Tigers Fury and a way to reset the fight if you pop Incarnation: King of the Jungle. Mobility is very good with Dash, Stampening Roar (2 sprints) and a nice gap closer on a low CD. Of course you have Mighty Bash on a relatively low CD as well as your silence which also works as a gap closer and combine that with Tauren (War Stomp) AND cyclone and you have a lot of ways to CC, interupt and close gaps. Mages can’t get away from you since you can just get out of their roots easily by shapeshifting. I’m still gearing up for 8.3 but when I reach the desired ilvl i’m sure to reach 1.8 - 2k rating in arena’s and i’m not even a pro druid player, it’s just my little alt that I play for fun.

PvE Boomkin
I actually tried this the first time yesterday in a Mythic +. I said to myself: If Boomkin is nothing for me in PvE, I stop playing this druid because I enjoy PvE content just as much as PvP. Gearing in PvE is needed to be good in PvP anyway (makes it easier anyway, needed might not be the right word). Guess what, it was a blast. I was 3rd on the dps meter but with 400 ilvl, my teammates all had 420+ and I was pretty close to the 2nd dps. I don’t even have more than 1 essence, not the right traits and not the right gear composition and it was really strong. A lot of fun here!

PvP Boomkin
Not my cup of tea, but still fun in bigger BG’s when you have the luxury of just hanging back and spamming your spells on someone. Don’t have much to say about this.

I will never be healer in PvP in retail, can’t stand it so I can’t tell you how its like on a druid. In PvE it seems fine, but prefer Boomkin.

I don’t tank in retail, so I don’t know how good guardian is.

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