How are priests healing in m+

How does it feel, how are their toolkits and how do the two heal specs compare?

Holy is good, but can be hard to play at higher levels

Disc is useless

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Unless you’re doing your 4 weekly dungeons :smiley:

I’ve run a few mythics with priest healers when I was tanking. There was only one (hi Ceran!) who was good. Rest were completely trash. I doubt there are so many terrible healers out there, so I can only assume that the spec is considerably harder to play.

It’s possible to play priest well in m+, but compared to other healers, it is much more difficult to do so, from what I’ve seen.

Uuuh I’m slightly worried. I’ve upped a Priest because I wanted a Priest and a healer class with a nice gameplay and read that Discipline was great for M+. I’m only going to do dungeons with this character so is Discipline good or not ? I’ve only healed in M0s for now (I am 420 ±, it’s not refreshed here) and did rather well, tho I admit for a class supposed to heal mostly through damage the DPS I do feels abysmal (15k GREAT MAX) so I rely more on Shadow Mend than anything else in heated situations.

Haven’t tried Holy yet in M0 but spamming Flash Heal is not excessively fun.

Doing solo content I barely do more damage on Shadow and I die faster, so I may not be the greatest Priest (and I lack several essences for now) but something feels wrong with the class.

What are the best healers for M+ up to +10 then ?

Disc is great, I do all my m+ healer keys as disc (do some as shadow to accomodate the group). I have healed 15/16 in time and even completed a 19 (though 5 minutes over).

Its just not as easy as other healers.

Some affixes I would recommend shadow covenant like busting/grievous.

If you pug m+ you should prepare yourself for your group possibly making things harder as disc than it would another healer spec.

I would not be discouraged, sometimes you just have to keep working to get better and more accustomed to playing a class/spec and disc priest is one of those that might take more time as its not a triaditional ā€œholy trinityā€ healer.

Up to +10 every healer is good and viable, you wont see any issue as any healer until at least around 20s.

I main Holy, a few pugs will whisper you: DISC? If you say no, you get an invite.

Apart from that, holy is a very easy spec to play but out of bis traits its really trash on M+ unless your team is not taking any avoidable damage.

If you pug, Holy is a safe choise.
If you are in a very good premade, disc is better(assuming people wont take dmg)

If you try to get in to really high keys like 20+ or more priest wont help you.
If you wanna do up to 15-18 in pugs every healer is fine.

Beware the META-slaves in pugs, many groups actually NEED rdruid-Hpala for their 10’s. Less spots for you i guess!

I have been playing this game for 12+ years, I have played all healing classes and specs, and Disc used to be an absolute blast for me during WOD and MOP, mainly because of the powerful shields we had back then. I rerolled Holy in Legion due to the Disc nerfs, and I have intermittently tried out Disc in BFA.

At start of BFA it was quite good with its newly made different playstyle of healing via damaging, but nowadays I do not enjoy it. A few months ago they immensely nerfed the damaging spells of Disc, anywhere between 25-60% for each spell. Apart from severely nerfing our damage, this also severely nerfed our healing, since Atonement heals for 50% of the damage that WE deal.

I am finding that our shields are extremely weak, almost making our effort of applying them to x5 people in M+ of little importance, and worst of all with all the hype about them being the ā€˜ā€˜damage healers’’, with all the nerfs to our damage our healing output via atonement is laughable… at least in M+. I have not tried Disc in raids but have had a couple Disc priests come in the raids with us and I s*** on them as Holy. They usually pull only about 30-40k hps which seems laughable to me.

I completely agree with several other posts that have been made about how much of a chore and awkward it seems that we constantly need to reapply Atonement and keep needing to swap between enemies and friendly targets to deal damage or healing. Our Atonement buffs run out so fast that we have to reapply it again very often, which gets tiring. And I don’t understand why they need to scale our healing with our own damage.

My suggestion? If you want us to be the ā€˜ā€˜damage healers’’, make our atonement healing percentage based only on players HP. So that damaging spells cause Atonement to heal players for X % of their HP, and maybe for PVP you could make it have a different effect to avoid imbalance.

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where have you read that disc is great in m+? no decent player would ever suggest that disc is anywhere close to being ā€œgoodā€ in m+. it’s trash, which doesn’t mean that you can’t complete keys as a disc, but to say ā€œdisc is good in m+ā€ is a straight up lie. no serious m+ streamer would tell you that and even moadmoad, the highest m+ disc in the world constantly talks about how trash disc is.

I think it was here on the forums. I thought I read it on Icy-Veins but their description isn’t quite what I remember:

Discipline Priests have received several changes that make the spec more interesting in dungeons. Our damage output, while still providing healing, is second to none. With dungeon design straying away from several one-shot mechanics, Discipline is now better suited to playing in a competitive Mythic+ setting.

But yeah of my short experience I guess I didn’t suffer any wipe in M0 because the people were often overgeared, as I really struggled filling back the health bar of the tank. And setting up my healing by atonement takes forever in a fight that will almost always require me to emergency heal via Shadow Mend anyway. So in short: I feel like my class is bad at what it’s designed. And our DPS is awful too, it takes forever doing the Cloak quest and I can’t fathom the thought of starting Visions with this.

I tried it with class trail and found my self applying shield to tank and radiance for group wide damage.

Felt really hard to heal tbh.

Except that segment you quoted straight up isn’t true anymore. Several of the healers can surpass disc in damage, they ALL do more single target healing, and they all have better mechanics to deal with heavy group damage/1 shot mechanics in a 5 man setting.

Yeah if I can’t believe everything on Icy-Veins anymore I don’t know where I’ll read advice for classes I don’t really know :confused:

Which healers are good exactly then ? As Resto Shaman my M0 experience was a disaster (but the group was kinda reckless) and gave me heart attacks because of the 5 minutes cast times to heal 10% of a health bar, it made me focus on my Elemental build and forget about healing with Shaman.

Druids seem really strong all around, I don’t know about Monks, Paladin look like a powerful healer but I can’t wrap my head around how its rotation work.

Rdruid, hpala, and mw are all very strong. Rsham is average, and priest straight up has the 2 worst healing specs for M+

Disc doesnt feel bad at all this season. The essences helped out a lot, and with the right corruptions you can do both good dmg and healing. Its hard to say just how good it really is overall. I doubt Moadmoad would get the results he has if disc was plain bad. That being said you are definitely more susceptible to bad teammates and to certain affixes than other healers.

If you want a well-rounded healer thats fairly easy to play and very easy to get invited to groups with, you should probably go rdruid. If you want max raw healing power, but limited dmg, go mw monk. And if you simply enjoy disc, then keep playing it and gear up :slight_smile:

If you find it hard to keep people alive, go twist of faith. Schism is only really good in certain dungeons, and only when you have a good group.

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Thats a lie too

Holy is horrible. I don’t know why I didn’t switch to holy paladin sooner, I put less effort in and get better results as a holy paladin than as a holy priest.

People are different learners, i find holy palla much worse than holy priest & i main holy palla & resto DROOD

But i play palla for the tank specc

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