Let’s say two weapons are exactly the same in terms of which stats they rolled, and the only difference is that one is ilvl 440 and the other is 430. Do those 10 ilvls have a massive impact on DPS output?
Are they really the same stats? No 10 ilvl difference in the amount of secondary stats?
Also by default, the 440 will have higher int.
Use raidbots and sim it for yourself. No one can tell you how big difference is this. Compare gear on raidbots and you will know exactly.
You can do math on raidbots and simulation craft for specific answer.
Oh cool. Thank you, will look those tools up.
Depending on the stats, a lower ilvl can give you a DPS improvement, especially when it also has a socket. Lately I’ve actually gone down in ilvl while I have been going up in DPS, purely because of better stats and sockets.
No ones really answered ya question properly lol.
He’s asked if 2 weapons have the same stats (haste and crit for example), will there be much of a diff 430 and 440. The 440 one of course will be better and have slightly more stats. Wouldn’t affect ya dps much, maybe 1-2%. 10 ilvl isn’t that big of an upgasde, just a slight one.
Why would you sim 2 identicle stat weapons, where one has 10dps, 10 crit, 10 haste more. Of course it’s better, dps is standardised now so speed etc doesn’t matter.
Nobody can answer that question without simming, which is something the OP can do themselves, doesn’t need us for that. I’d say all posts that recommend radibots correctly answered the OP’s question.
Also, OP did not specify whether or not sockets would/could differ, was only about stats.
Raidbots is your friend, to be specific in my case for example (Pwarrior) ten extra ilvl would mean roughly 10,5ish damage per Weapon DPS. I don’t recall now what’s the damage difference between 10 ilvls but let’s just say that usually for a melee the differences is huge, sufice to give more prio to the weapon ilvl than the secondary stats almost everytime.
The difference also only increases in AoE while albeit rare, in ST there is room for some choices. As an example, I have Dream’s End 435 with socket (Zacool HM) which thanks to it’s proc is for me more worth in ST than another weapon (specific talents are also part of the reason) I have with more ilvl which on the other hand gives me better perfomance on AOE damage. Again for that you need third webs like the one mentioned to have a fully educated opinion.
Last but worth mentioning, in the specific case of a tank you also need to take into account that you are often more interested in ilvl no matter what since usually more ilvl equals more mitigation. But that’s a different matter.
You didn’t read carefully did you? He didn’t ask about which is better because it’s obvious higher ilvl of the same item will always be better. He asked how big this difference is, and raidbots can show him exactly in numbers.
Assuming you are talking about THE EXACT SAME weapon, there will be some difference. How big though depends also on the class you are talking. For example, for a ret pala or a WW monk it will be rather significant whereas for other specs will be less. And of course we are talking about optimal gameplay. A better player will still be above even with the 430 weapon of your question.
For the exact difference numberwise and depending on each scenario (AoE,ST,burst, etc) your best resource will be to sim yourself as the others above have stated.
Guys, thank you so much for the informative answers. Will definitely get raidbot and see where that takes me. I’ve never tried it before so wasn’t aware such a useful tool existed.
And yes, Decayin got the gist of what I was asking quite well. I meant the weapons are exactly the same in every aspect (no sockets, same secondary stats, etc). Only difference is ilvl. Player also doesn’t matter to me because I will be playing the same way with either weapon (while trying to better myself of course). I just wanted to understand how the power creep is when going from 430 to 440 I.e. 10 ilvls for a single item( in this case, weapons).
Depends on class and spec.
As a mage it doesn’t make a lot of difference, but the 440 is always better given the only difference is ilvl, but on something like a ret pala or fury warrior, where abilities also scale with weapon damage, it’s quite huge.
Sims are overrated - people did world first when Sims app wasn’t in market.
Generally speaking, assuming both doesn’t have socket and both have same stats, the higher ilvl is better. Only because primary stats are stronger than secondaries.
You are a mage, so auto shot doesn’t have any importance in your rotation, but for melee and hunters, damage weapon is more important than stats.
BFA itemisation is meh…
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