ah ok, so having looted one 226 trinket or ring is enough to be able to trade next one away? guess i’ve been doing that for no reason then (note to self: dont listen to ppl!).
False.
As someone who knew how it worked it was a pita.
Especially when pugging as every single pug had those saved items at the end.
The only way to get the item was to make a pug yourself and unlike today a raid leader was expected to raid lead even in pugs.
The only people i have see defend that system benefited greatly from the system.
Making master looter be guild only was a really good thing.
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They specifically said it wasn’t, and if it was it was very stupid because all it did was make splitruns 10 times worse.
And I wish they kept it that way, only allow ML with guild groups would have fixed pugs too as you need like 80% of the group to be in the same guild for it to count as such.
Not false. If you didnt know how to prevent being scammed by pug leaders then thats on you im afraid. I pugged a lot. Havent been scammed once because i know what the RL had to post before proceeding with even pulling one bloody mob.
Yes. So? You knew that in the first place. Otherwise ask.
A raid leader is still expected to lead unless someone steps up or nobody leads which usually ends in a wipe. And spare me the “the only way to get the item” as its simply put false.
Uhh love these baseless assumptions of yours.
Oh im fine with it being for pugs as it spares the whine of people like you but frankly it got removed from Guilds as well because of some hur dur trials not getting loot. Which, as stated, was the vast minority and guilds that did it back then can still do it now as they can easily circumvent the system.
yea right. “Specifically”.
And Ion Specifically said “We can pull the ripcord”. Or they “Specifically” said, we’re listening to feedbacks. their words aren’t what it used to be. Take it with a grain of salt.
The point was to slow progression and world first races.
Otherwise, they would have added masterloot back into guild runs ages ago. They hate the idea of trading loots for the sake of gearing up individuals. So they came up with this brilliant idea.
because the item was an upgrade for him.
But the change didn’t do anything like that, it just made it worse. Split runs are still done just to an even more extreme degree. They haven’t slowed down anything.
Welcome to blizzard planning.
In case you’re unaware, their plan usually doesn’t quite have the same result they hope for.
To give you an example, their initial reasoning for adding a gold fee for changing azerite powers in BFA, was to stop what they call degenerate playstyle. The consequence was, degenerate playstyle didn’t change. But others who don’t play that way, got punished as well.
It’s kind of their thing.
Add something to stop high end players. Which results in the high end players finding a more extreme approach, and that change ruining the game for others.
They nearly did the same with torghast too. They wanted to add a timer to torghast for the same reason. To stop people from BLing before each push and waiting 10 minutes in between.
But i guess, they’re adding a timer type mechanic for season 2 of torghast, so back to square one for that one.
I believe the majority of gear in 9.0 for wf guilds came from pvp and boes, not from split runs.
I agree.
Removing Master Loot has definitely prevented a lot of disheartened players feeling demotivated and a lot of very angry threads on the forums, not to mention support tickets.
However, Guild Loot should have been put in it’s place. If all players in the raid group are guild, then a Guild Master Looter should be able to assign as before with Master Loot. Players can then choose to remain in the guild or leave if they feel they have been Ninja Looted… which Master Looter was used a lot for (Asmongold video not withstanding).
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I genuinely think this was the reason ML was removed. But if that was your guild; leave that guild! There are better people out there to play with 
Yes, both were very viable ways of targeting guaranteed gear, but that doesn’t take away the fact they still ran a bunch of heroic splits. PvP and BoEs had imo more to do with loot being very scarce in general (compared to previous tiers), rather than a different loot system. Just look at BFA for example.
The lowered ilvl from m+ so you couldn’t trade heroic loot going in was more succesful in slowing down gearing than PL has imo, but that brings issues in and of itself.
I did know, that does not mean it was not the right thing to do and by that fact that i as a person did know makes your statement false as you used the word Nobody.
I see you are that person you benefited as all heck from that system so obviously, you would want it to come back.
You have not puged in this expansion i see.
you are literally complaining it is not back right here in this thread and just so you are aware because you can not know me in any way whatsoever i did not complain about that when it was a thing because i had guild runs i just liked to pug the raids on the side.
So spare me the attitude.
Now you explain to me where you arent capable of understanding what a figure of speech means. It wasnt a problem regardless if you know how to prevent getting scammed. Period.
Uhh baseless assumptions. Please tell me more. You are now starting to entertain me.
And even more baseless assumption. Adorable Havthor.
Imagine not being able to understand that by saying “people like you” im talking about people going “wäh wäh daddy blizzard please remove master looter because im incapable of doing absolutely anything myself and need to have my hand held”. Also i am not “complaining that it isnt back right here” but that would require reading comprehension from your side i suppose as by saying “im fine with it” is implying that i can still dislike it happening but still overall being fine with it being there instead of going to hellbent try to get it removed.
Cool story. Wont change the point of my post however.
Sounds like a you problem not gonna lie.
master loot for guild is one of the best … simply if u dont like loot rule in guild change guild … and group loot should be for pugs and group finders and raid finders … and for group loot only thing what i will add is for more items u roll need less change u get for item
Did u just reply with the same thing I said? da waaat
I’m happy with the loot system. Could drop some more in m+ but trading restrictions are needed cuz of guild split runs.
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