How do you define “casuals”

Filthy carebears who dare to have a life outside of wow.

Oh, in that sense it’s just an all-purpose insult, with no defined meaning, when someone doesn’t or can’t help them do something they want.

It usually a derogatory description of the playerbase from someone or a group who feel they are more serious or elite. The thing is normally the person or group calling out “casuals” are in the minority, whilst the casuals they are describing are actually the 90% of the player base. To be honest it is meaningless really.

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Anything you do in-game you can do hardcore imo.

If you live on the game, and do nothing but pet battle - you’re a hardcore pet battler

If you’re a raider who does Mythic, and clears the full raid weekly near the beginning of the patch - Hardcore raider

Casual to me, is just someone who doesn’t take anything really seriously, and just fluffs around on the game.

highly committed in one’s support for or dedication to something. - hardcore by definition.

Me, who whilst plays all the time, doesn’t do any challenging content. Unless you count solo stuff. I don’t do dungeons and raids, really. LFR at most for the story. Despise PvP. I play casually, not competitively.

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By time commited.

Logging in for 6 hours a week (2x3) to do your guild raid is pretty casual. Even if the raid is mythic raid, aiming to clear the content and get cutting edge ach.

Playing 12 hours a day and grinding collection based achievements, where items might take months to get (cos they’re on mobs with really long spawn timers), well that’s pretty damn hardcore.

Actually the most hardcore playstyle in WOW is ‘completionist’. Some achievements are designed to be as tedious and unfun as possible, yet people still go and get them. And almost all such achieves require hardly any skill at the game. Or any challenging content participation. Most of this is just…waiting. Or doing something repetitively. Very, very repetitively.

People who enjoys the game even if they dont play the best

whats not a casual : someone who feels the need to dedicate their life to minmax & stop playing a class they like just to perform better

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Imo, casual is someone who don’t engage in high end content, which is M+, raid (NM, HC and MM), PVP (RBG, arenas).

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I define casual by the content they complete. I don’t see anything wrong with enjoying different types of gameplay.

To me a casual player is someone who doesn’t want to do harder content. A hard-core player plays at the hardest level. And then we have all the players in between.

Casuals base their gametime around their lives

Hardcores base their life around their gametimes.

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Players that have no interest in participating in the highest level of content in whatever place they prefer to be, be it PvP, M+ or Raiding.

For raiding, I consider players that haven’t killed Mythic N’Zoth at this point casual raiders.

Casual wear are clothes you wear every day.
So a casual gamer is a gamer that plays every day.

Casual has become a synonym with being bad at the game, which I disagree with. To me casual is someone who is playing the game purely because of the enjoyment it brings them and someone who does whatever they please (no commitments such as raid times).

This doesn’t mean that someone who puts in an extraordinary effort is a casual even if they don’t have any raid times: it’s simply not that easy to objectively define the term. I’d say the best indicator of a casual is in the name: someone who plays the game casually.

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Casual for me is a player who doesn’t get to achieve the prestigious rewards and doesn’t aim to get involved in min maxing / add-ons setup, playing for fun or collection of certain items, being social with others.
I am casual

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For me it’s not how much time, effort or high end a player aim for.

It’s simply to find a guild /pugs that allows them to log in without pressure and they can do everything whenever they want too.

There are actually casuals that got really good in the past and don’t want let go just because they got it busier irl.

When it’s game time then it’s game time and they do their best in game, they just can’t keep up a schedule like a more hardcore player can.

For me it’s just not being involved in challenging content. Like Mithic+ or Raiding from Normal to above.
Anything that involves voice chat and premade content, like when you chose players for their raider.io score, stops being casual content in my opinion and becomes a question on how far you can get ?
+5, +15 or +35 ?

I had a Orc Hunter in LFR a couple days ago, I was trying to get a Azerite chest piece ILV 430, for my BE Hunter.
He started to complain about the poor DPS group and the fact he was absent for 7 years and only played 2 LFR and was on the top DPS.

Fair enough.

I proceeded to check his gear:

  • ILV 445
  • 3 HoA Essences

What was he doing in LFR ?
Collecting ny’alotha pages ?

Cheers.

casual = just plays game for the fun.

Id say it’s someone who doesn’t engage with the systems of the game seriously, in a “i must I should” manner.

They may do mythic+, they may not. But if they do mythic+, they’re probably not sweating over their RIO, not simming their gear and aren’t terribly fussed if they dunk a key. They might run several M+ a night, sometimes they may not.

They approach the game in a casual manner in all respects, even if doing “hard content”.

But I would argue that if someone isn’t doing hard content, they are casual by definition because they’re not engaging with the system fully (by not exploring the full modes of difficulty).

So if you’re not doing mythic+ or heroic/mything raiding, you’re casual.

However you can do those things and still be casual, by engaging with them in a more hands off manner.

The only exception I’d make to this rule is achievement hunters who don’t do heroic+ raiding or mythic+ yet still hunt achievements very earnestly such as aiming for reputation grinds, R4 essences etc, I would not describe them as casual players.

When you play from time to time but also pug curve and some M in current content :rofl:

I’d say what most define as casual player is correct.

And you sound more like a commited player, than casual. Depending how much activities you engage like Isles, Warfronts and such. Raiding is even more nitche now than ever with M+ around where it’s all about that.

Hardcore are those on a Mything Raiding guilds that are keeping multiple alts up to the game standards in case balance happens and they need to switch class on the fly.